Tictacticaltimmy

Yes they are. They have some differences in the controls and I do not think most of the parts are compatible. By many accounts build quality and reliability is better than typical SIG, but I do not own one, just going by what I've seen online.

The only factory pistol that meets all your specs is the Arex Zero. Comes in a factory optics ready version, manual safety (as well as decocker), alloy frame, compact service pistol size. I would highly recommend getting a P07 and getting it milled for an optic. Great gun and works great with optics like the RMR/Holosun. I would also highly recommend learning to run the gun in DA and going with a decocker instead of a safety, but of course that is your choice.

Well since you asked.... 1. Recoil charactaristics: the beretta recoil system gives a "less violent" recoil impulse vs a browning tilt locking system, and the lightweight slide means the reciprocation of the slide has less leverage over your wrist vs a browning tilt locking system. You may find this lowers your split times and makes SHO/WHO shooting easier. In the video above the LTT had less muzzle climb than the S2 despite being almost 12 ounces lighter. In other words, you get the recoil handling characteristics of a 45+oz gun with the transitioning charactaristics of a 34oz gun. Of course recoil is highly subjective so YMMV, but this has been my experience with the LTT. 2. Grip: you may find the shape of the 92 grip and the lack of frame controls allows your support hand better purchase on the grip, further improving recoil handling characteristics and general shooting comfort. 3. Decocker: you get a decocker. The following don't matter for competition, but may be important for carry: 4. Consistency: if you compete with an LTT full size, and carry an LTT Centurion or Compact, your competition gun and carry gun are virtually identical in every way. You have nearly 100% skill carryover between the gun you spend most of your time practicing with and the one you might be trusting your life to. Of course CZ makes carry guns too, but compared to a P01 or P07, an S2 is 1lb heavier, has slightly different ergos, and has different controls (i.e. no decocker), so you will need to spend relatively more time actually practicing with your carry gun to reliably shoot at a high level under stress. 5. Efficiency: with 18rd mecgar mags, the beretta is one of the most capacity-efficient guns out there. The grip length is shorter than a G17, I think shorter than a CZ75, and holds 1-2 more rounds.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/11/24/lancer-laugo-alien-export/ It looks like the Alien is finally heading for the USA! Has anyone here pre ordered one?

I respect your attitute! Lots of haters in this thread, glad to see you are shaking them off. vision and willpower can make the unreasonable into reality. Will check back in a year and see where you are at...

Beautiful work Twong. If you make one from the Omega version you have at least one sale roght here. Followed by 2 more sales if the flat trigger works for me.

14 people in under a month looks pretty good compared to...... Steyr forum: 9 people posted in 5 years.

Without a doubt the biggest downside to using Tanfos for self defense are a lack of holsters and a lack of sights. Does anyone make night sights for Tanfos? I sometimes carry my Witness Steel 10mm in an Aliengear Hybrid Holster. I can check which mold I am using if you are interested, I believe it is either a Sig P220R or a G20. The hybrid holster is a very comfortable way to carry a heavy gun; no issues with all day carry. However, it is obviously inferior to a proper molded kydex holster in a number of ways

Cold hard steel!

Along with that, it seems like Steyr and Para could be folded into the "other" category as they get far less traffic than even Canik

The Stock I imported by IFG is specifically designed to be under the IDPA weight limit. Looks like it would be a great option for 10mm.

I would definitely go either .38 super or 9x23. You get more magazine capacity than .357 Sig and they are straight wall cases so much more forgiving to load. With .38 super you can just buy the gun you want and no need to spend extra money with a gunsmith. Load Starline .38SC brass for the best reliability and you should be able to load it very strong. Also factory ammo is very affordable. 9x23 is just a simple reaming of a 9mm barrel. It would be the best option for maximum performance, but you would need to buy pricey brass/ammo. One option would be to just buy a 9mm barrel for your 10mm Tanfo and have it reamed to 9x23. You can use the money saved to buy brass, dies, etc. Of course this may not be as reliable as having the proper 9mm breechface to start with. I have thought a lot about a similar project but havent pulled the trigger yet, let us know how it goes! Would be interesting to see some datapoints for velocity, reliability, durability, and accuracy

Avoid the "UM Tactical" stuff. I have the UM3 and it falls off my SP01 after a box of ammo, regardless of how tightly it is secured. Very strange tensioning system.

If your split times are literally three times what they were with irons.... The problem is a training issue, not one caused by a subtle difference in how the gun handles.

If they make this for the new Stock I with a rear sight plate option I'll most likely be buying one

In 9mm I believe the capacity is the same: 19 rounds in about the same mag length, definitely an advantage for .40 though. I have no interest in this gun, but love the idea of CZC making complete guns in the US. What I would lkke to see is an aluminum frame SP01 with checkering like an S2 and a wider/flatter slide like a P09 designed from the ground up to be easy to cut for optics.

What a cool design! It seems to me that "20" in the diagram is a DA or half cock notch

Atlas, How do you feel about something like the DPM guide rod with its multiple springs? Shouldn't that give the same effect as increasing the stroke? I've never stroked a gun or used a DPM so I have no experience on this, though it looks like an interesting option and much cheaper than having a gun modified.

Looking forward to the review P.E. Why don't you accuracy test it like you have other guns at the end of your reviews? You might want to use a laser instead of the sights, people complain that big front dot makes it hard to aim precisely American Rifleman review showed extremely good accuracy, another gun rag showed moderate accuracy, and some youtubers have claimed poor accuracy.

PLEASE OFFER THIS FOR A STANDARD SHADOW OR SP-01 Been waiting years for this!

Gotcha. Sounds like there is a good chance it would touch off a round as soon as you rack the slide, perhaps even go full auto. When you say imbalance between the springs, is that because one was replaced while the other was not, or purposely replaced with a weaker/stronger than factory spring? If this is something that just happens from high wear on Tanfos, perhaps Tanfos with a high round count are mechanically safer if you remove the FPB altogether? This is a bit of a tangent but... Lately I've been thinking a lot about CZB vs. Tanfo vs. CZ Shadow for carry guns and what possible situations could cause an Accidental Discharge. The conclusion I've come to is that a Shadow with regular firing pin and spring is entirely drop safe unless dropped directly on its muzzle, in which case the round is going to go into the floor anyway. As for AD's due to mechanical failure, I figure that is the real advantage of having a FPB... it prevents the gun from going off if there is a very high degree of wear on parts such as the hammer/sear hooks. However, your example seems to indicate that a heavily worn Tanfo with FPB intact is just as likely to have an AD as a Shadow would be (obviously the likelihood is still extremely low). Plus, unlike worn hammer/sear hooks, you can't test for an imbalance between springs by simply pressing on the hammer, since when the hammer is cocked back the trigger bar will prevent the sear from moving.

With the hammer follow that you had, did the hammer stop on its half cock notch or go all the way forward? How many rounds through the pistol?

.4" lower is truly a massive difference, there's no doubt this is the way to go instead of a dovetail mount. I'm really impressed they were able to retain the functionality of the FPB. It would be nice if there was a way PD could make an iron sight plate, but that is extremely difficult to do with direct milling vs. a plate system like CZC is doing. Even more difficult when you include potential variability in the dimensions of Tanfo slides. Makes me wish spare slides from EAA were actually cheaper than just buying a new gun...

Totally agree. By the time you add Dawson sights, Cajun SRS, and an extra mag, extended mag release, you are about $20 away from just getting the Shadow. The numbers are better still if you want extended safeties, care about having the shortest reset possible, or feel the Shadow hammer is "good enough" but the stock SP01 hammer is not. Also a Shadow is simpler than a regular CZ75 to work on whereas a decocker model is more complex. On the other hand, if the idea of manually dropping the hammer gives you the chills, the tactical could be a great competition platform.

Thank you for the detailed range report, I agree that thumb safeties plus a deleted trigger dingus sounds like it would be a great option.