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This mirrors my experience as well. Fantastic holster. The video was all that was necessary to adjust the Guga Ribas holster, and it had excellent retention and release. I had it with a TSO for the brief time I dabbled in Limited. That gun/holster combo is the only time I've ever been able to reliably and consistently nail sub-1-second draws. IIRC After 2-3 dryfire sessions I was hitting first round A zone hits around 0.92 sec. By contrast, with my Prod/CO rig (Shadow in a standard kydex holster) my consistent draw times are around 1.12 - 1.17 sec.

My uninformed, uneducated guess: Trijicon recycled the exact same zero screws for the SRO from the RMR. However, the greater mass of the SRO (or perhaps taller body) leads to some sort of greater leverage against the detents which hold the zero screw in place, and the hardware that was adequate for the RMR is insufficient for the SRO.

All those ranges listed above are your best bet but they are all private. You'll need to check each out one, evaluate the costs and length of waitlist, figure out the drive time, get a grip on the rules/access for setting up your own targets in the bays, and then make an educated decision as to which one you want to join. Personally, I just practice at Elite Shooting in Manassas, VA. It's an indoor range and they don't allow any movement, but it's only $30/month for unlimited shooting, open 9a-9p year round, has a HUGE brand new facility with top notch ventilation, and has a full 100 yd indoor range. For me, those benefits outweigh the pleasure and better training of shooting outdoors because most outdoor ranges close by 4pm during the winter, close in all inclement weather, and are an extra 30-60 minutes drive time each way.

For anyone who thinks that, they should look at the results from the OH State Championships this past weekend. PCC didn't even make it into the top 10, with Open (and Bob f'ing Vogel shooting Limited) absolutely dominating. Heck, even Carry Optics beat PCC.

Charlie, I don't think I'd ever seen any of your match videos before, but dang. Those were fun to watch. Makes me want to buy an Atlas! (Of course the real answer is practice more)

Damn, that is one beautiful piece of hardware. I'm surprised that I'm seeing it for the first time right now, but it's at the top of my list for if/when I ever dabble in Limited again.

From a design standpoint, the S2O is aimed squarely at Production Division*. but there is still some uncertainty as to whether it is considered the same as the regular Shadow 2, or being treated as its own separate model. If separate, it would not be legal for Production until 2000 units are imported into the country. As per @eerw above, there are only 80 units so far, so it will be a while till we hit 2000 in the USA. * Note, you could shoot it in Limited Division as well, but would theoretically be at a disadvantage compared to true Limited guns which shoot Major Power Factor ammo, with magwells, and single action only triggers, etc.

Yes. Solid slide, just like on the G17, but longer.

If there's anything I've learned from reading gun "reviews" it's that you need to take their gushing enthusiasm about every new item on the market with a massive grain of salt. Let's wait and see just how good/light the trigger on the Alien actually is. It's super exciting though, and the first major innovation in pistols since striker-fired tupperware in the 70's. And while I agree in principle about the concerns being raised in this thread, I'm not sure they'll actually have any practical effect on scores. It's pretty easy to see shooting a tuned Shadow 2 "should" give someone a distinct advantage over shooting a Glock 17, yet Glock shooters still routinely beat guys with $2500 custom Production pistols. Ultimately, the trigger has (IMHO) the least impact on a person's scores out of every "feature" of a gun. The huge delta in scores between Production and Limited is really caused by mag capacity and the addition of a magwell - fewer and faster reloads. You see it time and time again.... people try out the new "hot" item and then report back here on the forum that they absolutely "love" their new gun/slide/optic/trigger/sear/whatever but under further investigation their splits/transitions/scores/hit factors don't really change. Assuming the claims on the Alien wind up being true, does it offer a competitive advantage over other Production guns? Absolutely. Dow the Alien belong in Limited? Probably. Will it make any difference on scores? Doubtful. Winners are still gonna win. Everyone else will fall in behind according to their talent/skill/effort/practice.

No need to get hung up on barrel length. The overall barrel length of a gun doesn't affect mechanical accuracy, only velocity. That won't have any measurable effect on groups at 25-50 yards. In fact, shorter barrels can often be more accurate because they are stiffer and therefore suffer from less barrel whip (although that is primarily related to rifles, not pistols, but it's an interesting point to consider). CZ has Optics Ready models coming out soon (ish) but they will be quite expensive. It will probably be cheaper to send your slide to have it machined for an optic. CZ Custom offers a machining package to fit various adapter plates for different optics and they also have a plate that has a rear iron sight (so you can switch between irons and optics by just changing 2 screws). People seem to be very happy with that system but I've never personally tried it. I have sent 4 slides to @PrimaryBruce who runs Primary Machine to have them direct milled for optics (1 Glock w/RMR, 3 CZs w/ DPPs) and been very happy with their work. There is a used Accushadow available right now in the Classifieds board. That would be a fantastic gun - check out the test target. You could have it sent to CZ Custom or Primary Machine to have it milled for an optic and still come in around $1500 all told.

I'm only saying the TSO is "good enough" when compared to the Accu-series Shadows, which have been a bit more accurate for me than the TSO, but it's obviously splitting hairs. I've owned a TSO and an Accushadow. OP doesn't compete, he shoots for accuracy/groups on paper on a static range. So my post was directing him towards some more target-oriented guns which will likely serve him better.

Hi Chet, the 9mm TSO is designed specifically towards competitive "practical shooting" i.e. 3-gun, Steel Challenge, USPSA matches, etc. If I read between the lines of your posts, it seems like you are primarily target shooting at static paper and you are most interested in the absolute most accurate pistol possible. The majority of users here on the BrianEnos forums focus on practical shooting competitions where accuracy is important, but other factors are far more critical. Virtually any quality gun produced today is "accurate enough" for USPSA, but things like followup shots, reloads, etc are far more critical. The TSO and Range Officer will likely have a very similar trigger. The RO might even be a little bit better as a 1911, however both will be very light, very short, single action triggers and it will really be about preference. Accuracy will be similar although again, the RO might be a little better. However, compared to the RO, the TSO will offer much faster follow up shots, faster reloads, triple the magazine capacity, and less perceived recoil. If you are after the most accurate hammer-fired 9mm steel frame pistol, you would probably be better off looking at the "AccuShadow" or "Shadow 2 Accu" from www.czcustom.com. They are both custom tuned pistols with a barrel bushing, are DA/SA, and will have fantastic triggers with polished internals. Either of them would probably be more accurate than a stock TSO, and they would use the same magazines as your 75B. For the TSO, you would need all new mags. Another option outside of CZ would be the Sig P210 Target. It is an SAO target pistol and reported to be highly accurate, but I've never shot one so I can't say for sure. Any pistol with a red dot optic will be more accurate at distance than iron sights. Especially with a small red dot (1-3 MOA). You just have to decide whether you prefer optics or iron sights.

This is why I prefer the DPP - huge window. There are some very interesting (on paper) dots now from Sig and Holosun, but I haven't yet had the opportunity to see them in person.

Here in the US, most people choose barrel length on rifles based on legality issues. The minimum barrel length on a rifle is 16" unless you want to jump through some hoops, bureaucratic paperwork, and pay a $200 tax stamp to have the rifle approved as a Short Barreled Rifle. So for anyone who likes to play with their gear and change things up, the logical choice would be a 16". Then you can have an unwelded brake and remove/install it any time. If we buy the 14.5" version, the brake must be welded on permanently. So even though the 14.5" swings maybe 5% faster. many Americans would choose the 16" for convenience. I don't know what laws you deal with in the EU that may or may not influence your choice, but generally speaking, shorter is preferable for a PCC. Go 14.5".

The added weight *can* make a difference, but it's completely dependent on the unique combination of the frame, slide, optic, ammo, spring, and any other factors influencing the issue. Most of the time, guns are sprung to work within a wide enough range to account for most commercial ammo, so small variations in slide weight don't affect reliability, but once in a while, you can have an issue. Usually a FTE. These are still typically remedied with a different recoil spring.