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6 hours ago, perttime said:

I recall there can be difficulties with the timer, if using a suppressor. Especially when the RO/Timer Holder cannot be very close to the competitor.

 

 

Suppressed or not, some of the most quiet guns/loads are hard to pick up 100% on the timer unless the r.o. is holding it closer to the barrel than the stage design might make safe and easy. Problem is worse with rain and bagged timers, it is frustrating running a mouse fart shooter on his 3rd or 4th reshoot while getting soaked.  

 

The best idea I've heard for pcc rules lately is to bump them to 150 power factor so missed shot reshoots will be less of an issue. Many or most of the guns/loads are not a problem now but if you have one or two exceptions on your squad it can be a real pain in the butt. 

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As an SO / RO it needs to become a habit to hold the timer as close as possible to their ejection port on the last shot. A timer like the CED7000 with the sensitivity cranked all the way up will help a lot too.

 

Plus you need some serious shooters who run comps on their PCCs. The right ones actually do flatten the gun out slightly, but more importantly, they’re worth running for reshoot insurance reasons.

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2 hours ago, IHAVEGAS said:

 

The best idea I've heard for pcc rules lately is to bump them to 150 power factor so missed shot reshoots will be less of an issue

 

Sounds good to me.  It doesn't take much powder to get f 125 out of a 16" barrel.  I am amused by PCC shooters not using the same ammo as for their PCPs. 

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I find mine runs flattest around 140-145 power factor with a 124. That’s where the gun will hammer a 10yd target with a 2-3” group as fast as you can work the trigger.

 

Of course, I did a lot of comp/buffer/recoil spring testing on this gun, too!

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The perception that PCC is slower to run is personnel related. A PCC shooter and RO who have their act together will run as fast or faster than most shooters.

That said, I have seen PCC shooters who did not have their act together and it can be painful.

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10 hours ago, ToddKS said:

The perception that PCC is slower to run is personnel related. A PCC shooter and RO who have their act together will run as fast or faster than most shooters.
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This.

We have a localish version of IPSC/USPSA for military reservists (camo recommended but not compulsory). At practice, people often run the same stage with pistol and rifle. There's no difference in how long it takes: just a different procedure for taking the firearm to and from the course of fire.

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We don’t even see carry optic pistols at our club so I doubt we’ll see pcc. Which, imho, is great. No interest in it at all. Just policing the before/after handling will be a pita and it doesn’t fit with the concept of idpa. Three gun events already exist—-if a club wants to draw more people just host one of those.


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9 hours ago, sweatpants said:

Is anyone already shooting PCC in IDPA?  Is it fun?

 

Typically + - 4 guys out of + - 40 at local events here. 

They seem to have fun with it.

 

One guy has tremors with pistol but seems to be able to hold the rifle no problem so it works out really great for him. 

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I'm about to give it a try.  I've had a suppressed 5.5" AR9 SBR for a few years.  I picked up a 10.5" Foxtrot Mike upper and a LANTAC Dragon brake yesterday.....Now I just have to make sure it runs.

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On 8/6/2018 at 8:12 PM, Flatland Shooter said:

 

I agree.  Too bad USPSA will not allow suppressors.

We have had timer problems without suppressors at a few USPSA matches. Last Sunday we had one  guy shoot a smoking run on a classifier, GM run and the timer didn't count all the shots. Then like normal his reshoot didn't go to well. My local IDPA club  has not been doing PCC, the club was trying to push 2  pistol stages and 2 or 3 PCC only stages, I told them that that tosses me out , not having a PCC and that if thats the way they want to roll have fun but I'm not going to show up, set and SO and pay to shoot two stages, and PCC is a division so let people shoot the match with one if the want, or a pistol if the want don't  cater to one or the other.

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