Lobonca Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 What are the pros and cons of round nose vs. flat nose bullets for loading for USPSA? Thanks, Lobonca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Whichever runs in your gun. Buy those and shoot them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 In very general terms a round nose feeds better. But a good running gun should run anything just fine. Flat nose or JHP's cut cleaner holes in targets if that matters to you. And JHP are reported to be more accurate but for what we do, i.e. blasting away at cardboard targets at about 50 feet max, I doubt it's that critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsauerfan Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 i prefer hollow poiints, fat points or round nose-flat points for the game because the cleaner holes lol. seriously, i'm shooting glocks and CZ's in limited . i reload ,and for some reasons i get more consistent coal with fat points or hollow points. maybe i'm wrong but seems to me hollow points are really suited for metal; since the round is opening on impact it,s like the cinetic energy is spread all over the plate so a not so accurate shot is ''pushing''' the plates down anyways whereas with a round nose the plate might stay up if the shot is way down on the plate....but it is juste an impression i get......on top of it some plates near may goes down by getting ''shrapnels'''' coming from the plate i've shot at LOL. as for feeding, i've never had more troubles making hollows or FP's feeding correctly so i can't comment on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Round nose because they load better in my PCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 5 hours ago, aandabooks said: Whichever runs in your gun. Buy those and shoot them. +1! Hollow points are known to be a little more accurate but whatever runs good and accurate in your gun is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 RN for revolvers because they feed better into the chambers JHP's for 9mm Major so the base is covered (no lead exposed). For 9mm Minor, doesn't matter .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamboSoup22 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 +1 on the cleaner holes! Easier to see holes in the target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I like TC or similar flat-pointed bullets because I can load them much longer than a round-nose in my guns with shorter chambers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said: I like TC or similar flat-pointed bullets because I can load them much longer than a round-nose in my guns with shorter chambers. Weird. For me it has more to do with the bullets ogive than the point/meplat. My situation is the exact opposite. The FP I load have a wider ogive, which means they engage the rifling sooner, so I need to load them fairly short (1.09) for my CZ Shadow. Generally, I can load much longer with RN bullets. Edited January 17, 2018 by 4n2t0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, 4n2t0 said: Weird. For me it has more to do with the bullets ogive than the point/meplat. My situation is the exact opposite. The FP I load have a wider ogive, which means they engage the rifling sooner, so I need to load them fairly short (1.09) for my CZ Shadow. Generally, I can load much longer with RN bullets. This is why I said last week in another thread that blanket statements don’t mean much when it comes to Reloading. Memphis seems to know his stuff but so much of this depends on the exact bullets used and YOUR gun. I can load much longer rounds in a given gun using MG 124 CMJ Than I can using MG 124JHP’s. MG RN bullets are very long slender nose where their JHP have long flat sides that will bottom out much sooner. BUT BBI 135’s RN have a really”bulbous “ shape. MORE LIKE A DOME. They have to be loaded waay shorter than a MG or even a plated XTREME RN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 For competitions, I prefer plated TCs in 40 and 45. I do settle for RNFP in 45 if I can't get the TCs. For 9mm I'm going KISS. It will be 115gr HAP for major and minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, zzt said: 115gr HAP for major and minor. I like to load different bullets for major and minor - makes it more difficult to mix them up. I use 124 gr JHP's for Major and 147's for Minor - real easy to tell them apart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Good point Jack. I do that for 40 and 45 just for than reason. Forget KISS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 41 minutes ago, Sarge said: This is why I said last week in another thread that blanket statements don’t mean much when it comes to Reloading. Memphis seems to know his stuff but so much of this depends on the exact bullets used and YOUR gun. I can load much longer rounds in a given gun using MG 124 CMJ Than I can using MG 124JHP’s. MG RN bullets are very long slender nose where their JHP have long flat sides that will bottom out much sooner. BUT BBI 135’s RN have a really”bulbous “ shape. MORE LIKE A DOME. They have to be loaded waay shorter than a MG or even a plated XTREME RN. Exactly my point, that's why Memphis' reply confused me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmo Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 For my 929 it has to be RN...either 147 or 160 grain just for the speed of reloading on the clock. For the XDM 5.25 it eats anything I feed it...but it is the most accurate shooting 147 grain RNFP. I like the feel of the heaver bullet on recoil and feel more confident when trying to knock down steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 For 9mm minor, I've always wondered if the flat bullets might do a little bit better job on steel than the round nose. Just based on the notion that rn might ricochet a little better and deform a little less before losing contact with the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I like truncated cone for steel. The wider the meplat the better it is for energy transfer. It knocks steel down faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Personally, I like semi wad cutters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGOTGLOCKED Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 1/16/2018 at 9:49 PM, Sarge said: In very general terms a round nose feeds better. But a good running gun should run anything just fine. Flat nose or JHP's cut cleaner holes in targets if that matters to you. And JHP are reported to be more accurate but for what we do, i.e. blasting away at cardboard targets at about 50 feet max, I doubt it's that critical. ^^^ Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) On 1/17/2018 at 8:31 AM, CamboSoup22 said: +1 on the cleaner holes! Easier to see holes in the target why do you want to see the holes in the target? Or are you just being considerate of the RO's? fwiw, i haven't noticed any diff in the holes between rn and fp, or any other shape except semi-wadcutters in 45. Edited January 18, 2018 by motosapiens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Semi wad cutters cut a nice big ass hole. That is great for IDPA where they can't use overlays. USPSA doesn't really matter, we have overlays. Moto, something is wrong with your wad cutters if you can't tell the difference in the holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 45 minutes ago, motosapiens said: why do you want to see the holes in the target? Or are you just being considerate of the RO's? fwiw, i haven't noticed any diff in the holes between rn and fp, or any other shape except semi-wadcutters in 45. Hmmm, There is a major difference in hole between bullet types for me. But, no it doesn't matter really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Racinready300ex said: Semi wad cutters cut a nice big ass hole. That is great for IDPA where they can't use overlays. USPSA doesn't really matter, we have overlays. Moto, something is wrong with your wad cutters if you can't tell the difference in the holes. I used 150gr Bayou semi-wadcutters for a while. I’m back to a TC bullet. The holes look exactly the same in RN 147s, conical 125s, and those wadcutters. Shoot them side by side. I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) On 1/17/2018 at 3:31 PM, 4n2t0 said: Weird. For me it has more to do with the bullets ogive than the point/meplat. My situation is the exact opposite. The FP I load have a wider ogive, which means they engage the rifling sooner, so I need to load them fairly short (1.09) for my CZ Shadow. Generally, I can load much longer with RN bullets. The 125gr TC from Black Bullets or Blue Bullets has an ogive that’s further back than any RN bullet. It’s shaped nothing like a 147 flat point. Acme’s 124gr RN required me to load shorter than 1.110” to feed my buddies M&P. The exact same gun would take a 125 TC out past 1.150” Before we throw around statements like “FPs load better than SWCs” or something, we need to clarify exactly whose mold your bullet maker was using! As an example, it’s obvious that out of THESE three projectiles you’d be able to load the middle one the longest. And that’s the bullet profile I was referring to: Edited January 19, 2018 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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