DocMedic Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) So My M2 is being serviced atm and I plan to shoot a 3gun match sometime this weekend so I went to grab my backup, which is a SLP setup with a speed shoot for my speed loaders for my backup open shotgun as well. Looking at it, if you cut off the speed loader catches on each side, you could probably load 2 maybe load 4 quite well with it, the chute just guides the rounds right in with very little thought or guidance needed. I've looked at 4 different rule sets and the only thing I see is that only "speed loaders" cannot be used in Limited/tacops divisions. Edited June 9, 2015 by DocMedic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmt Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 It's really no different than a magwell on a pistol or AR. Neither of those would push you to Open, so you should be good to go with one on your shotgun in Lim or TacOp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Id have to see a picture of it to understand for sure (don't shoot Open, never used a chute/speedloaders before), but I guess how would it help vs a hogged out port like everyone uses now. I can see it guiding a speedloader into position but I would think something like that would restrict hand placement and ease of loading manually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I have seen quite a few Open guys load TWinS and Quads with theirs. As long as the shells are not mechanically held or fed as you put them in, I do not see a rule based restriction. I think the angle, weight and bulk might get in the way a little. I did try a Kydex chute on a VM for a match or two and it offered no advantages, however, a good design might change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 I would have to look at it a little harder when I get home, I just pulled it out of the safe before I went to bed to make sure it was oiled enough to run this weekend and it just struck me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I have seen quite a few Open guys load TWinS and Quads with theirs. As long as the shells are not mechanically held or fed as you put them in, I do not see a rule based restriction. I think the angle, weight and bulk might get in the way a little. I did try a Kydex chute on a VM for a match or two and it offered no advantages, however, a good design might change that. I hear the gears of hundreds of Benosphere technicians beginning to spin. Hmmmmmmm........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) I have been thinking about this option for a while also - less hassle than Dremelling on the loading port. It's a question of whether my fat fingers can get in there Edited June 9, 2015 by StealthyBlagga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I had Ralph's chute on a 930. It gave a pretty good target for traditional weak hand loading. Never tried dual/quad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I load quads weak hand and I can't see how I could do so properly with a chute in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarpau Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 My lifter is my speed chute!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 I must had looked at it for several hours last night, I honestly think it could work. My only issue, it was hard enough just to find a Speed Chute for a SLP to begin with, let alone I don't exactly have the funds to buy another one. I'm going to buy some Kydex and experiment with it on the SLP, It will be interesting if I can make this work and compare it to my M2 once I get it back since its getting extensive port work done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openclassterror Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Weak hand quads with a speed chute are tough. I speak from experience gained by not having enough tubes haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llandaff Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Dunno about 3gun rules, but IPSC shotgun rules are clear on this subject. Standard and Standard Manual Divisions 20. Replacements of or modifications to elevators/floor plates, provided no part protrudes beyond the standard frame of the gun, are permitted. 21. External feed ramps as direct replacements of the carrier release button (Remington 1100 and 1187 only) are permitted. You can't use feed ramp on Standard class shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcloudy777 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 What I really wish someone would do is put the barrel on the bottom and the mag tube on the top... Weak hand deuces and quads without having to turn the gun over..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJW Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 What I really wish someone would do is put the barrel on the bottom and the mag tube on the top... Weak hand deuces and quads without having to turn the gun over..... More linear recoil impulse, too, and the sight height would be just like a single barrel trap gun. I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hostetter Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 hmmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I think that after a bit more thinking you guys will understand that this is NOT a good idea with a shotgun. Think sight offset and pattern. I do like the idea of more linear recoil and it can be had in the Akdals etc, but not a good idea for the limited guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcloudy777 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Sight offset shouldn't be much different then the bottom barrel of an O/U gun, and people hit with those just fine. (Other people... not me ) And probably less offset than on an AR. I admit it would probably take some adjustment, but I think the speed you could pick up reloading might be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistralRifleman Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 There is a Russian pump action shotgun with the tube on top, never imported to the US. The idea had also previously occurred to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moltke Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 This could be a neat idea to funnel the shells in easier however I think its a solution looking for a problem. That being said, I'm staying tuned to see if anyone pans out the idea into something useable because I'm always looking for the next solution to my perceived problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snertley Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Why not just rotate the reciver 90* to left. Weak hand loading made easy, same sight plane, bottom ejection. Whats not to like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 What I really wish someone would do is put the barrel on the bottom and the mag tube on the top... Weak hand deuces and quads without having to turn the gun over..... I was able to do it with an old damaged 870 that was headed to the scrap heap anyway and I saw no issues with it. Trigger group flip and change the buttstock angle. The M3000 would be the best option to do it with since the recoil assembly is around the mag tube and not in the stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 What I really wish someone would do is put the barrel on the bottom and the mag tube on the top... Weak hand deuces and quads without having to turn the gun over..... I was able to do it with an old damaged 870 that was headed to the scrap heap anyway and I saw no issues with it. Trigger group flip and change the buttstock angle. The M3000 would be the best option to do it with since the recoil assembly is around the mag tube and not in the stock. Please tell me you took pictures of the 870. If you did could you post them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 What I really wish someone would do is put the barrel on the bottom and the mag tube on the top... Weak hand deuces and quads without having to turn the gun over..... I was able to do it with an old damaged 870 that was headed to the scrap heap anyway and I saw no issues with it. Trigger group flip and change the buttstock angle. The M3000 would be the best option to do it with since the recoil assembly is around the mag tube and not in the stock. Please tell me you took pictures of the 870. If you did could you post them? I did, even though it has been destroyed. I am still not sure if I am going to do anything with it, so I am not going to post pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Ok, I understand. How did it shoot? Edited July 7, 2015 by bmiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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