Nemesis Lead Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) OK CZ shooters. I am new to CZs and have a Custom CZ 75 SP-01 Accushadows on order. What 9mm load recipes do you use? I understand that a CZ likes shorter bullets. Is that correct? Is there an optimal OAL? Can you use heavier bullets (I run 147 grainers through my Glock with great success)? Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. Edited July 31, 2014 by Nemesis Lead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 You can load longish with the right bullet profile; I've had some 147s hit the rifling at 1.1" and others at 1.14" (Falcon bullets). I think I prefer 135s to 147s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 147 gr round nose Xtreme bullets 3.2 grains Titegroup Winchester spp 1.130 OAL .377 crimp mixed range pick up brass round nose flat points i had to load very short. they were still very accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankYa Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 147 gr round nose Xtreme bullets 3.2 grains Titegroup Winchester spp 1.130 OAL .377 crimp mixed range pick up brass round nose flat points i had to load very short. they were still very accurate. I use the same load. These days it depends a bit on what powder you can get, so what do you have on hand? Lester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quack Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) I just worked up some loads 2 weeks ago. 124jhp MG Fed SPP 1.095" OAL .378" crimp Mixed brass HP38/Win231 4.5gr - 1092fps 4.4gr - 1069fps 4.3gr - 1058fps 4.1gr - 1031fps 4.0gr - 1012fps Edited July 31, 2014 by Quack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Lead Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 I am all VV N320. I am most concerned about OAL and optimal feeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I am all VV N320. I am most concerned about OAL and optimal feeding. I am working on a N320 load now with 147gr X-treme bullets. Shot a couple of hundred a few nights ago that were 1.145 without any issues. I started with 3.4gr and I think I can reduce the charge a bit. I will be doing some chrono work this weekend and would like to see if 3.1 - 3.2gr will still make minor PF. I will report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Lead Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 I run this load out of my Glock with no issues. I was hoping to take this into a CZ platform: 147 Bear Creek flat nose. 3.3 grains of VV N320 OAL = 1.115 Crimp = .378 to.380 Federal or Winchester primers. 135.5 power factor. Sometimes I put a Precision Delta FMJ in there and get the same result (a bit slower perhaps). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidgun Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 147GR BARRY'S 3.3 TITEGROUP/3.4 BULLSEYE OAL = 1.120 131-132 PF Groups well at 25yds and no issues hitting A zone at 50yds. This is with my accushadow and shadow target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmt Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) 124gr Frontier Plated Bullets 4.1gr Titegroup OAL 1.100" Win Primers Mixed Brass Brass lands 10'-12' to my right Edited July 31, 2014 by pmt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRevolutionIX Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 147 BBI 3.8 WSF OAL 1.130 WSP primers Mixed brass 135 PF Here is a group I shot out to 25 yards when I first developed this load for my Accu Shadow. I believe it could be better but I suck at group/bullseye shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronicTwitch Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Extreme 124gr fmj flat nose, oal 1.085 Extreme 124gr fmj round nose, oal 1.15 Wst 4.0gr on each Need to chrono but brass ejects 2-3ft out of my TS on both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneBray Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 124/125 FMJ, CMJ, JHP, FP from Hornady, Zero, Precision, or Montana Gold. Titegroup 3.95 to 3.97 grains, 130 PF, COL 1.20-1.30. Testing 147 gr but don't have load worked up yet. Twist rate for most CZ barrels is optimized for 124/125, but they shoot 147 just fine as well as 115s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoo Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 124 gr. BB 3.9 gr. VV N320 1.140 OAL Mixed brass WSP Primers 132 PF Love this load very accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 See my post of 26 April. I have OALs for 12 bullets for my CZ85. My son's Shadow runs 5mils shorter. Sorry, I haven't figured out how to copy links on this iPad. I just lost my android. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdave24 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 You really need to plunk test your bullets in your barrel before deciding on a maximum OAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 a couple of tips. don't load as long as you can just for the sake of it. I can run my load out to 1.1 or so but it groups a lot better at 1.090. also don't load just right on the min PF. try some slightly hotter loads. my groups also closed up with a bit more ooomph in the load. I also much prefered 135gn RN to 147s. the 147s seemed to have a bit more muzzle rise and just didn't feel as good to me. don't write off trying some 124gn either. after all nominal 9mm loads are with a 115gn pill. check your barrel but my shadows shot much better with 356 sized pills than they did with 355 sized. I run: 135gn CMJ frontiers sized 356 3.6gn or ADI AP50N (sort of between VV N320 and N340) about 136 PF federal SPP mixed cases (mostly WCC that have been swaged). OAL of 1.090 they shoot very nicely. very easy to manage the gun and nice groups. Super reliable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max It Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Gee- I thought I could say something but it looks like everyone else chimed in already. I have been using 147gn Moly to knock over steel at our matches. works fine in my CZ75B-SA. Good on yer' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanniek71 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Mine is loving 125gr The Blue bullets 4.0gr Hp-30 1.100 +/-.05 OAL Coming in at 130-131 PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Just got back from the range and chrono. 147gr RN X-treme 3.2gr N320 1.13 OAL Winchester primers 129 PF FYI 3.0gr is like 120-122PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=194378&hl= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 4.8gr WSF and precision Delta 124gr FMJ. OAL is 1.150". Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midvalleyshooter Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Bear Creek has a nice 135 grain round nose that I have had good luck with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basman Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Mine is loving 125gr The Blue bullets 4.0gr Hp-30 1.100 +/-.05 OAL Coming in at 130-131 PF Also love the Blue Bullets. This load shots POA/POI out of my shadow: 125gr Solo 1000 1.125 OAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bam Bam Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Berry's 124gr HBFN 3.8gr Titegroup 1.06" OAL For my Shadow Custom and My SP-01 Tactical Custom very tight groups. BGC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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