open67 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Have been using 4 grains of tightgroup but have gotten leary of this powder as it is fast and if extra gets by in a case am worried about something bad happening. Loading on a 650 with powder check but have gotten so info that pressures can go way up with even extra small amounts. Looking for options. This is for production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I use 4.2 gr bullseye 1.15 coal in a g17. Right now it's more about what powder you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blairmckenzie1 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 nothing wrong with titegroup. if you are that worried about it N320 works good too, but good luck finding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Lord Gomer Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I usually load 115 gr JHPs and have also had good results with Solo 1000 and WST. Of the 3, Solo 1000 seems to result in the most consistent speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) I run Winchester Super Field... switched from Titegroup because of concerns around speed, pressure and heat generation - here in AZ we don't need any extra heat. Of course, good luck finding any for sale. Edited April 7, 2014 by StealthyBlagga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemooncricket Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I've used the 124 gr. MG JHP with 4.5 gr. WST with an oal of 1.106 with positive results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I use Clays, but, if you don't have any, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck s Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 N320, wst, w231,hp38, wsf, all have worked well for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gondo Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Could u use unique? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levellinebrad Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I honestly don't think you need to worry about it. That being said, wsf, 7625, solo 1000, 700x , e3, red dot, green dot, wst, clays, n340, n320........ Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 4.5 of 4756 works well also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieHunter Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I'd be impressed if you got a double charge on a 650, that is nearly impossible. I run a 650 with hundreds of thousands of rounds loaded and have never once had a powder issue. You'd have to have a major failure on your charge bar for that to happen. I think you'd notice that pretty quick. :-) But I agree Titegroup is pretty harsh on felt recoil. I use WSF currently and love it. But, I'm almost out - and if I can't find more, will be using Clays/Clay Dot - as I have quite a bit of that. 9mm is pretty versatile really in terms of powder - almost anything will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Could u use unique? According to Alliant's page, yes. Looks pretty snappy based on the listed velocity. http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/RecipePrint.aspx?gtypeid=1&weight=124&shellid=23&bulletid=26&bdid=33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calishooter Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I load with WST for 124 gr bullet and it has worked well for me 4.6 to 4.7 gr. at 1.135 to 1.140 out of CZ Shadow. I recently got a few 3 lbs of titegroup and loaded 124 gr MG with 4.0 gr. and it works for me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggerman300 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Does anyone use Power Pistol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee blackman Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Start at 7.0gr of Autocomp and work up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open67 Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 Reason for the post (and I will try to make a full post with pics later is I had a catastrophic failure 4/6 that blew the gun and barrel to pieces. luckily I or no one was hurt other than my hands felt like they got hit with a ball bat for about 15 min. Loading 4 gr. TG on a 650 with powder check and am pretty diligent about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfish Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Wst is kind of a fluffy powder and in 9mm a normal charge takes up a lot of case volume. My normal charge fills up the case about 2/3s the way full if not more. It is also fast burning and shoots a lot like titegroup. Its about all I use anymore. The way the powder situation is right now though you kind of got to use what ever you can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cf2126 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 4.5 of 4756 works well also. Sir i have been trying to use 4756 with a 115gr 9mm and even with 5.0gs of powder have alot that will not fully eject and its not only the m&p gun a 1911 also. Have u changed your recoil spring to a lighter one?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_pinto Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Start at 7.0gr of Autocomp and work up. I believe the question was for a minor load. Although autocomp does make a nice 147 minor load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmagee67 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Yea DO NOT start at 7.0 gr AutoComp that is a major load, Hell 7.5 gr AutoComp under 124gr MGHP gives me major in 38 super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 CF2126, 1911 with a 17lb mainspring and a 10lb recoil spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 N320- 3.5gr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e5gator Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 titegroup, 3.1 grains pushing a 135 poly bullet from BBI works fantastic out of my gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FULLMETAL Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 3.6 N320 works well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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