amac45 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I can't be the only one that thinks some of the match fees out there are getting way to out of hand. Call me cheap but paying $150 and up for a one day match is on the verge of rediculous. For example the recent Bug gun nationals came in at $150 and the 2014 Winter nationals is going for $175. Yes you heard me right $175 for a one day match and banquet if you can make it. No discount if you can't make the banquet. With the gov't taxing the hell out of us everyday and the price of everything going up some things need to be kept reasonable. Oh well thanks for letting me vent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryO Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Have you ever put on a match? Do you know what it costs? Bill Gates didn't make his Billions putting on matches and I don't think anyone one else is doing more than covering their costs. As for taxes those are a result of elections. Edited December 10, 2013 by TerryO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 For IDPA that is way to expensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbinster Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Wow the local IDPA matches I go to (NJ / PA) all charge $10 for the match. One of them even includes two slices of Pizza for lunch in that price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It's a National Match.. You always pay more for a National match then you do for a weekend down the road match where you can most likely get reshoots on a stage if you bitch enough. The National type matches are more glamorous with spotlighted shooters and you get to see and listen to all the higher management at a National match at the banquet..Also, you will notice all of the nice and neatly starched vests and colored shirts there, and it's always fun to see who can put the most sponsors on their shirts.. It's an experience you should try at least 1 time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkguy Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 the state and regional IDPA matches i have been to all cost between $85-$125, so an extra $50 for a national level match with the best shooters is not to expensive to me. when you compare it to Single stack national, S&W revo nationals at $200 a pop, Bianchi cup starts at $275, Steel Challenge starts at $195 and does not include a shirt, given the big picture for all of the shooting sports national level events, IDPA seems to be in line with the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidgun Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 The prizes are also much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 If you think it's expensive, then you should work the match. Most matches you shoot for free if you work it. If you don't have time or energy to work the match, then you are the reason the match fees are expensive, so just enjoy it. If you add everything up, the match fee is pretty insignificant compared to travel, hotels, ammo, time off work, guns and ammo for practice, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 The S&W Invitational is a little steep IMO. However, S&W is entitled to make a profit if they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denn1911 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'm not a cheap guy, and I help at matches when I can. I travel to matches and classes, and it is expensive. It is expensive to run a top tier match. However, in my opinion, $175 for the IDPA S&W Nationals is expensive. I've been competing at that match since their first one. $150 for a BUG Match is ridiculous. S&W is entitled to profit, but they'll see a decline in participation as they keep raising the entry fee. Despite the increased fee this year, they had no problem filling this match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordfan485 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 It might be expensive compared to a local club match that runs $15 , but for a major match that seems pretty resonable to me. Most I have paid was $135 for the Shoothouse IDPA match back in october. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solvability Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Vote with your feet - that is how capitalism works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 With the gov't taxing the hell out of us everyday and the price of everything going I like how you include this in your post, and assume cost are only going up for you and not going up for the people putting on the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryO Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 With the gov't taxing the hell out of us everyday and the price of everything goingI like how you include this in your post, and assume cost are only going up for you and not going up for the people putting on the match. Bravo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafdov368 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I can't be the only one that thinks some of the match fees out there are getting way to out of hand. Call me cheap but paying $150 and up for a one day match is on the verge of rediculous. For example the recent Bug gun nationals came in at $150 and the 2014 Winter nationals is going for $175. Yes you heard me right $175 for a one day match and banquet if you can make it. No discount if you can't make the banquet. With the gov't taxing the hell out of us everyday and the price of everything going up some things need to be kept reasonable. Oh well thanks for letting me vent. You need to consider everything that goes into it... like little things such as feeding (30-50) people, pasters, targets, props and then the prize table organizing that has been going on for the past 6-8 months. It all adds up way to quick. I really don't think this is all that ridiculous considering the time it takes for the people running the match to get everything set up. Almost all the money goes into the prize table with with the remaining going to the club that put the match on. I'm sure going to the national competitions costs more because of the prize tables, the raffles are usually stacked with nicer things. Just something to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeactionjackson Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) If you think it's expensive, then you should work the match. Most matches you shoot for free if you work it. If you don't have time or energy to work the match, then you are the reason the match fees are expensive, so just enjoy it. If you add everything up, the match fee is pretty insignificant compared to travel, hotels, ammo, time off work, guns and ammo for practice, etc.... ^this..... I worked the BUG Nationals, and the Winter Nationals....... giving up over a week+ of vacation time between the two events (not to mention the daily commute from another state), it's a massive effort to put on an event like BUG. You really should work one national or large event to see the absolutly massive amount of work that it takes. ....entry fee probably wouldn't seem so bad afterwards! ~g Edited December 13, 2013 by safeactionjackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Yak, yak, yak. I'd like to see the balance sheet for a sanctioned match and see where the money actually goes. Back when I shot ATA Trap instead of IDPA, I was the cashier for several state championships. All funds accounted for, the club was making substantial money off of it. We plowed it back into maintenance and capital improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig N Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 It's <insert Big Match Name here> it's supposed to be hard / expensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsk Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Yak, yak, yak. I'd like to see the balance sheet for a sanctioned match and see where the money actually goes. Back when I shot ATA Trap instead of IDPA, I was the cashier for several state championships. All funds accounted for, the club was making substantial money off of it. We plowed it back into maintenance and capital improvements. You do realize that your Trap model is not making money. using the profits from a particular match to repair or upgrade a facility is the whole reason these matches exist. If a club could not recover the wear and tare from the match and make subsequent improvements why would they hold a match. Volunteer sport, if you don't like the match fees step up to run a sanctioned match at your club and see if you can do it $20 bucks a head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooddog Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 That's a lot of $$ to be dinged with the multiple procedurals that they love to give out at S&W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkybassplayer Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 My local matches are $10 for IDPA members. $20 for non. -BTO- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillR1 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 If you think it's expensive, then you should work the match. Most matches you shoot for free if you work it. If you don't have time or energy to work the match, then you are the reason the match fees are expensive, so just enjoy it. If you add everything up, the match fee is pretty insignificant compared to travel, hotels, ammo, time off work, guns and ammo for practice, etc.... This exactly! The match fee is one of the smaller expenses in going to a big match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I definitely don't shoot major matches for the prize table. Knowing the overall expense of attending a major match I try to keep them local enough that I don't have to spend more than I need to. It's definitely a great time to be had. I've only been shooting IDPA for a year but attended a tier 2 and 3 match so far. It's a great learning tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sac Law Man Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) I dont mind the fees. At the last few S&W indoor Natls they raffled off 20 guns, gave out bags with logo and a challange coin. Not to mention cocktail parties and an awesome dinner. These add up. In my opinion it was well worth it. Plus that match was held over 5 days so the fees to use the facility are greater. If I do pay that much, I expect nice awards. I shot a state match in the NW the last few years and the DC plaques were nice, but all of the other awards were paper certificates. If I pay $100 and get a paper certificate that you printed at home, thats BS.. The new rule book addresses this though.. At this years CA State match our fee is $100. We are giving away 5 guns and 3 Dillons (2 650s and 1 550) that we had to pay for .. Every shooter will get a door prize (some are gifts worth sev hundred dollars), a dog tag, and the awards are really nice, so the shooter is going to recoop most of their fee. Edited July 24, 2014 by Sac Law Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Gonsalves Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 At this years CA State match our fee is $100. We are giving away 5 guns and 3 Dillons (2 650s and 1 550) that we had to pay for .. Every shooter will get a door prize (some are gifts worth sev hundred dollars), a dog tag, and the awards are really nice, so the shooter is going to recoop most of their fee. Not to mention 11 (I believe) great stages and a great staff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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