MarkCO Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 The Silver tubes absorb less heat and the heat shield kit is amazing at keeping the hand guard cool if you need it. Michael1778 covered the main reasons we don't slot our tubes, but another one is the actual edges created by the slotting operation. Carbon fiber is not something you want to have unfinished edges for a variety of obvious reasons. There is no real benefit to the slots, but several increased risks. I have seen three broken carbon fiber tubes, not ours and not PRI, that failed due to the stress concentrations created by slotting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seekins Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I designed ours after shooting multiple kinds of shooting competitions and realizing the potential gained by having the proper tools so the shooter could take advantage of different situations. It was made as light weight as I could while maintaining the rigidity I expected. Allot of people have reservations about switching from something that is round. Change isn't easy for everyone so if you buy one and don't like it for any reason I will take it back Glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1778 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I think the shape is truly inspired and clearly useful. That is an exceptional risk-free offer to the community. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordonhurd Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Has any one tried the Odin Works 15.5" KMod? Website says it is 11.55 ounces with the parts kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 With all the proprietary barrel nuts out there, switching is a pain. I do not wish to removed an inner and outer nut from a sub MOA JP just to try out a lighter tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george995 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) I really like my jp modular handguard( 15"), it mates well with my mega receivers, somewhat light, and have endless options for mounting hardware. I also love the diameter of the tube, its perfect for guys who do not use forward grips, smaller width is easier to grip. Edited August 11, 2013 by george995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastshooter03 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Hmmmmm. The best handguard would be one you don't have to pay for, looks cool, feels better, and wins stages for you! Don't have one of those yet! Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mamma Posted August 12, 2013 Author Share Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) The Silver tubes absorb less heat and the heat shield kit is amazing at keeping the hand guard cool if you need it. Your silver carbon fiber hand guards are definitely the coolest looking hand guards (no pun intended). I just can't get over the no holes or slots in yours, despite that being a superior design. Joe Mamma Edited August 12, 2013 by Joe Mamma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 The Silver tubes absorb less heat and the heat shield kit is amazing at keeping the hand guard cool if you need it. Your silver carbon fiber hand guards are definitely the coolest looking hand guards (no pun intended). I just can't get over the no holes or slots in yours, despite that being a superior design. Joe Mamma Find me at a match and we will discuss heat transfer. Your brain might hurt, but it will make sense from a heat perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagdrag Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 With all the proprietary barrel nuts out there, switching is a pain. I do not wish to removed an inner and outer nut from a sub MOA JP just to try out a lighter tube. Does anyone make a CF tube that will use the JP receiver extension? Mark, I thought you and Firebird had a cross marketing partnership that distributed CF tubes that would fit the JP receiver extension. Are those still available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Our first generation tubes did fit the JP and the Firebird nuts, but we do not make that anymore. We had a few parts, but those are all gone as well. It is possible to adapt our tube to a JP if you have a lathe to make an insert. We had such a demand for nuts that it became necessary to produce our own adapters for a basic stock style nut, which we sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermobollocks Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Does Carbon Arms do installation, or can you recommend someone who does? I am less than enthusiastic about disassembling a Larue. We had such a demand for nuts Phrasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 If you want to send in an upper, stripped or built, we certainly can install parts. Send me an e-mail off the website and I can get you handled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUBL Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) I do have 3 favorites that really float to the top......all extremely light weight and 2 are aluminum. I do have to mention that you really can't go wrong with a Nordic for the price......and they are very stout......even the 15" HG Really in no order.....if you want, you guess what I think is actually best.....but I use them all and would recommend any of these 3 below: I have a Seekins Tube, 15" with the rail on top and it is very light, quite possibly the lightest HG out there with a rail on top. I do like it, it's a little finicky to put on, however you use std tools. I really am no longer a fan of 2" tubes. I really like my SAMPSON 15" Evo......to the point that TACCOM will be using them in the near future as an option on our 22LR uppers.....I am a HUGE fan of small diameter, light wt tubes, and SAMSON is tops in that arena. great to hold on to....able to 'clamp' it into position with your weak hand on objects......it's just an all around good design. Easy to instal with std tools And who could argue with my buddy's 15" carbon fiber tube....AP custom. Aaron is a class act all the way and even a fun guy to hang out with!! AND....hey, this guy gives back to the sport in a big way. If you gotta have a carbon fiber tube, you should really consider one of his.....he knows how to make them and they are top shelf quality. Easy to instal with std tools too. Edited August 12, 2013 by TRUBL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowhand23 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 With all the proprietary barrel nuts out there, switching is a pain. I do not wish to removed an inner and outer nut from a sub MOA JP just to try out a lighter tube. +1 I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegeneric Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 The Silver tubes absorb less heat and the heat shield kit is amazing at keeping the hand guard cool if you need it. Michael1778 covered the main reasons we don't slot our tubes, but another one is the actual edges created by the slotting operation. Carbon fiber is not something you want to have unfinished edges for a variety of obvious reasons. There is no real benefit to the slots, but several increased risks. I have seen three broken carbon fiber tubes, not ours and not PRI, that failed due to the stress concentrations created by slotting. I can't find a listed weight for your handguards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C130Mech Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Keep it simple and go with what's comfortable. I chose the good old Troy Alpha Rail in 15". Light weight, slim, tough, add rails as needed and best of all only $120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Bacus Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Not as light as carbon fiber but I'm using the Noveske NSR rail, it is light and very small in diameter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atvman400 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Keep it simple and go with what's comfortable. I chose the good old Troy Alpha Rail in 15". Light weight, slim, tough, add rails as needed and best of all only $120. Where are you shopping? Cheapest I can find is the $180 range. I'm looking for a longer hand guard for my backup gun that isn't $200 and will barely ever get used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breekarms Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 15 inch m lok handguard offers excellent flexibility. This hanguard is one of the best in the market with optimal weight reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 The best, price not being a concern? That’s easy. Brigand Arms. Sure, they’re expensive at $300... but mine weighed 4.66 ounces worth of braided carbon fiber. And that’s including the barrel nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 12 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said: The best, price not being a concern? That’s easy. Brigand Arms. Sure, they’re expensive at $300... but mine weighed 4.66 ounces worth of braided carbon fiber. And that’s including the barrel nut. Where do you mount the sling attachment and bipod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 51 minutes ago, Dan Sierpina said: Where do you mount the sling attachment and bipod? It's a PCC so I'm guessing nowhere. I strongly dislike large diameter round handguards so I'll have to disagree with MM anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Dan Sierpina said: Where do you mount the sling attachment and bipod? Best is situational; if your only concern is lightweight, it’s the best option for you. If you have other priorities? Other options are the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlvrDragon50 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I would like to try out the Brigand Arms handguard. I am very happy with my SLR Helix though. If I want it to be slimmer, I just take off the Magpul M-LOK handgrips, but I like the added grip the grips give. Very pricey though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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