ProGunGuy Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) I have never been to the Nationals. i was hoping to go next year as I like going to Vegas. Shooting and then hanging with others at a rest or bar in Vegas sounds enjoyable. I shoot production only, but if i can get into the nationals next year, I will shoot limited as i can fly into Vegas and spend a few days there before going to St. George. So did it being in Vegas in the past help you decide to shoot it or not?? Or shooters don't care where its going to be located. Edited November 30, 2012 by ProGunGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Vegas location made it less of a priority for me to go. Guess I just like OK bars better. I have enough ringing in my ears without all those slot machines making all that racket. I shoot for the matches and the people at the matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosa Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 The thing about Vagas is that flights are cheap.. You can fly from New York to Vegas for the same price as New York to Orlando.. Vegas is super accessible to most folks.. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) For me the venue of Vegas made the match that much more appealing. I think its an awesome place to shoot as there's all kinds of stuff to do when we're not shooting. I'm not even into gambling. Plus, I bring the wife with me so its a vacation/shooting trip. The closest Level III matches are 5-6 hours away for me since I live in the middle of the Pacific. Any further east of Arizona or Texas and I'll most likely not go since I hate flying. Wish they'd keep the Nationals in Vegas. Most of my squad at this past Nationals felt the same Edited November 30, 2012 by blaster113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUshooter Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I've never shot a Nationals but would like to in the coming years. If Vegas is the venue for say 5 yrs then I would just suck it up and go. However if the venue rotated around the country I would try to catch it someplace more appealing. Vegas the city doesn't really do anything for me, but I can see why it is a good location for an event like Nats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 It looks like I will still be flying to Vegas and then driving a couple hours to the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) Vegas had nothing to do with me going. I also shot a Nats at Tulsa. I shot/worked Area 1 last year. St George is a GREAT place. Scenic area (Zion is about an hr away and Bryce Canyon is about 4 hrs), great range, great town with friendly people and lots to do. Bryce Canyon is one of the most gorgeous and unique places I've ever seen. Edited November 30, 2012 by remoandiris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrVvrroomm Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Vegas means nothing to me. I don't drink and I don't gamble. It was just another place to shoot. I would actually prefer a smaller venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Vegas was one of the reasons I DIDN'T shoot the nationals after the first year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphamikefoxtrot Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Vegas was one of the reasons I DIDN'T shoot the nationals after the first year. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBoyle Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I do not like the idea of Vegas for me. There are too many distractions and I would find myself up too late at night to be productive the next day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 vegas adds little value to the match for me (except the availability of good vietnamese food). I worked because it was close enough for me to drive to. I plan on attending (work and hopefully shoot) in st george, and I think st george will be a better location from my perspective. Less hustle and bustle, more outdoor things to do nearby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 To me, location of the nationals only bothers me if the location is not gun friendly. For example, if the Nationals were in New York, I wouldn't go due to all of the crazy gun laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I and alot of other people went to Nationals specifically because it was held in Vegas. Just look at whats gone on with the waiting list the last few years. Almost immediately hundreds on the waiting list. That was NOT the case in Tulsa. Tulsa also developed a bad reputation for mud and monsoons with poor drainage and a staff that didnt seem to care. NOW I have no idea if that is true but it was brough up alot after the final Tulsa nationals. Vegas is easy to get in and out of, cheap as dirt for hotel/flight/car combos. and dependable weather. Really good place for nationals. If you think there is nothing more to do than drink and gamble you need to get out of your hotel rooms. Vegas is a great fun place to be. Where is St George anyway ? Sounds like it is in same region without the night life. If it was gonna move why not move it east ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 If it was gonna move why not move it east ? That is a question for the prez or maybe BOD. I'll bet a facility to hold such a match and local support staff to setup the stages well in advance is not that easy to find. St George, located about 2 hrs NE of Vegas in the SW corner of UT, has both the facility and local support staff to put on a fabulous Area 1 match. They can do the same with Nats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProGunGuy Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 If it was gonna move why not move it east ? That is a question for the prez or maybe BOD. I'll bet a facility to hold such a match and local support staff to setup the stages well in advance is not that easy to find. St George, located about 2 hrs NE of Vegas in the SW corner of UT, has both the facility and local support staff to put on a fabulous Area 1 match. They can do the same with Nats. When we drove it from the strip, it was more like an hour and 20 mins. the range is beautiful and big. St. George is where Berry's Bullets are located at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangGreg66 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 If it was gonna move why not move it east ? That is a question for the prez or maybe BOD. I'll bet a facility to hold such a match and local support staff to setup the stages well in advance is not that easy to find. St George, located about 2 hrs NE of Vegas in the SW corner of UT, has both the facility and local support staff to put on a fabulous Area 1 match. They can do the same with Nats. When we drove it from the strip, it was more like an hour and 20 mins. the range is beautiful and big. St. George is where Berry's Bullets are located at. Well that's good to know, I thought it was a lot farther than that. I went this year to the handgun Nationals and to the multigun nationals this year and the previous year because it was within driving distance. From the bay area it takes be about 10 hours to get to Vegas, it's a long day, or night, but it's doable. With good gas mileage, it's cheaper than flying and renting a car, even at Vegas prices. It sounds like St George is still within driving distance, though farther so I'll consider it as the time approaches, but Tulsa... having to fly, rent a car and all that and the terrible stories I've heard about the range... it makes it less appealing. I might switch over and shoot Limited this year instead of Production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProGunGuy Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) also for anyone going to St. George on PST, its MST so its one hour later. don't show up late. LOL Edited December 1, 2012 by ProGunGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Hello: I shot the Nationals in Vegas the last 4 years. Main reason---I can drive there Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jriera Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Hello: I shot the Nationals in Vegas the last 4 years. Main reason---I can drive there Thanks, Eric +1 ... I can almost walk to the range!! The people at St. George are going to do an awesome job as they normally do .. Travel time from Las Vegas to the range in St. George is about 90 minutes (plus time zone difference, UT is in Mountain Time). The 2013 Area 1 in May will be a great warm up for them .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Vegas is a great venue for a national championship event. There is no place on Earth with more entertainment options. And if you just feel like relaxing, you can ignore all the traditional Vegas stuff and simply stay at a decent motel near the range. The last two years I stayed at the Best Western on Sahara just a few minutes from the range, and it worked out great. You don't have to drink and gamble if you don't want to! I see no point in St. George, Utah. If you're going to move the match away from all the entertainment options that Las Vegas offers, put it in another part of the country altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyg00 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 +1 Mike Marty A-7424 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbean Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Vegas was one of the reasons I DIDN'T shoot the nationals after the first year. Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4045 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I have shot in Vegas the last 2 years. It's a mini vacation for wife and I. I am not really liking all nats in Vegas. Hopefully they will move Production to Tulsa. I will be able to drive to Tulsa. It will be the only pistol match I plan to shoot next year. We will be at multigun nats again in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer377 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 A Vegas trip would be alot easier to sell to the wife than a Tulsa trip. "Honey, let's go to nationals! I'll shoot for a few days, then we can hang out for 3-4 more, see shows, and eat at some great restaurants" vs. "Honey, let's go to Tulsa. I'll shoot a match for a few days, then we can go cow tipping" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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