Xander Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) I prefer plain serrated fronts over FO, I think would go with the .170 Dawson front on my Shadow. Anybody else here prefer plain black fronts over FO? TIA Edited December 31, 2011 by Xander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Yup. Many of us here just use the dawson. The factory FO just gets in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 yes indeed. I prefer a serrated black front sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torogi Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Ive read that serration on the front provides more surface area to catch light, is there any difference using a white dot (non-glowing)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pevadijk Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I use a Dawson .215 'all black' with a CZcustom tactical rear on my stainless 75B and I really love it! Just about every front sight has been tried on my CZ, but the 'black Dawson' is about perfect ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomicbrh Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) pevadijk, one concern of mine about trying many different front sights on my Shadow is having to drill out the front sight every time. Did it cause the hole in the slide to become too big drilling this out many times? I am also a fan of the Dawson Precision sights which I put on our Glock. Any input is appreciated because I have old eyes and would like to experiment with many different Dawson front sights on my Shadow. Thanks, Bobby H. Edited December 30, 2011 by atomicbrh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerlrrp Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) How many who prefer non-fiber optic sights for the standard serrated front sight are over 40? <sarcasm> Edited December 31, 2011 by huskerlrrp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 Yup. Many of us here just use the dawson. The factory FO just gets in the way. Yeah the FO get's in the way, sucks. Too bad I can't get my hands quickly on the plain serrated Dawsons as I am located here in Asia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind bat Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Atomicbrh - Dawson front sights (at least the FO versions) have a set screw you can use instead of drilling the sight for a roll pin. I drilled mine just to be on the safe side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 still best to drill..as there is a tightly fit bushing in the slide that is held in place by the front sight pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 all of the blanks i've ordered had set screws, too. however, i still use a front sight pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pevadijk Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 How many who prefer non-fiber optic sights for the standard serrated front sight are over 40? I'm 42 actually and I really hate FO's ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pevadijk Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) I still drill the frontsights: my shooting buddy skipped drilling a frontsight and that made the bushing from his 75B go flying.. If you do the drilling carefully (I use a cordless bitdriver at such a low speed that it's barely cuts and I can control it fairly well) you can do this several times. I have changed frontsights at least 10 times on my current CZ ;-) But for me the Dawson all black serrated fronts are the holy grail of CZ front sights and I've tried every variation CZcustom sells. Edited December 31, 2011 by pevadijk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck1 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I far and away prefer all black serrated front sights to FO's, I've tried going back just to see if I was fooling myself, but now they just seem super distracting. I'm running the .090" wide X .170" Dawson on a Stainless 75B with the CZC competition rear and ideally I'd like it to hit right exactly at the top of the front blade, but it prints about an inch or so high at 7-10 yards, which seems to be working well for me since I tend to bury the front sight in the notch when I'm going fast and makes it so that I can simply "lollipop" 6" plates at 20-25 yards. More than anything I just feel that black fronts force you to stay honest with your alignment and don't let you just release shots once you see the glowing dot appear in the notch like with FO's. YMMV... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobin Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) I am using a serrated front black sight that I got from the previous owner of my CZ 85 C and it is about .100" wide and I am not sure how tall it is. I think it is a CZ product and the rear sight is the CZ Competition one. I am older with not the best sight and have used FO front sights for a while on my Glocks and an M&P Pro also had the big green FO front sight, but I find the precision of the plain black front sight quite good even if it slows me down a tad. I shoot better groups but a bit slower. I may get a Dawson FO front sight just to see what difference it makes. Edited January 1, 2012 by tobin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Tobin This is not about sights but i see you shoot glock & M&P & CZ witch do you prefer & why. I am new to this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digi Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I started off with the f/o and thought I liked it. As my skills progressed I found myself rushing the shot just because I see the fiber and not actually lining anything up. I went with the dawson and absolutely loved it. Tried going back to the f/o thinking that maybe it was just a mental thing but it confirmed it, I like the plain black sight way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I started off with the f/o and thought I liked it. As my skills progressed I found myself rushing the shot just because I see the fiber and not actually lining anything up. I went with the dawson and absolutely loved it. Tried going back to the f/o thinking that maybe it was just a mental thing but it confirmed it, I like the plain black sight way better. this was also my experience. my sights got smaller and blacker as i improved. 3 white dot > black rear large orange FO > black rear small red FO > black rear front black > black rear target thinned front black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 What drill bit to drill that sight since I just put in the set screw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 caliper says, .078" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pevadijk Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 With a FO front I'm able to put the holes in the target and with a thin black front, I'm able to place it where I want it ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobin Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Tobin This is not about sights but i see you shoot glock & M&P & CZ witch do you prefer & why. I am new to this game. I have to say I get better overall scores with the steel framed gun than the polymer guns. I find the lighter guns too easy to push off the target, I guess the heavier gun is steadier for me. Trigger advantage should be to the Glock for lighter first shot but I still shoot the CZ better overall even though I have to be careful with that first DA shot, after that its all the same or easier with the CZ. I also find the reloads faster on the CZ as I think the angle and the material of the Glock mags make the changes a bit slower for me. The CZ wit its metal mags and grip angle are much faster for me but YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 How many who prefer non-fiber optic sights for the standard serrated front sight are over 40? I'm 42 actually and I really hate FO's ;-) 48 here. I prefer black on black... but I can deal with a fiber optic in the front if I need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon9 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Dawson black serrated for daylight shooting. 1mm fiber optic for night, especially against shot up steel. I keep a different one on each gun and the time of day dictates which I shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincerama Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Yup. Many of us here just use the dawson. The factory FO just gets in the way. Yeah the FO get's in the way, sucks. Too bad I can't get my hands quickly on the plain serrated Dawsons as I am located here in Asia They don't ship to Asia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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