B_Seehawer Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 I know that there is no such thing as a cure-all. I'm shooting lead in 9mm, .38 Super, .40, and .45. Is there single powder that is relatively clean burning that is a decent choice for all of these or am I stuck with having to buy different powders? ganderman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 I know that there is no such thing as a cure-all. I'm shooting lead in 9mm, .38 Super, .40, and .45. Is there single powder that is relatively clean burning that is a decent choice for all of these or am I stuck with having to buy different powders?ganderman If velocity is not of paramount importance, you can use WW231 for all those calibers - but you won't make major with the .38 Super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 N320, N330, and Titegroup come to mind. You can make major in 40 and 45 with all three, minor with the 9mm and 38 Super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Seehawer Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 I thought that someone here said that Titegroup isn't good for shooting lead bullets. ganderman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Look into Alliant Power Pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herky Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 I would think you could find loads for all with IMR 7625. I use it in 9mm minor, 40 major, and 9 supercomp major. There should be something for 45 also, check their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLM Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 It definitely depends on what you want to do but if you're after nice all-around loads, Solo 1000 is a good powder under lead. It'll get you to minor in 9mm and 38 Super and major in .40 and .45. Titegroup + lead is usually quite smoky as Titegroup burns hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 I thought that someone here said that Titegroup isn't good for shooting lead bullets. ganderman Smoke problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Seehawer Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 My .38 super is purely for fun. My 9 mm loads would be for minor, .40 for major and the .45 I would really have to screw up not to make major, even though I don't shoot the .45 in competition. Gotta love an unreliable Kimber out of the box!! ganderman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 (edited) WST works well with lead in 9, 40, and 45, never tried in it 38 Super as I only shoot major with JHP's. Tite group is also good in 9 and 40, it will smoke like an old freight train but it works well. WST is very similar to 231. Solo 1000 works well in 40 and 45, have not tired it in 9 or 38 Super. N320 very nice in the 40 and 45. IMR 7625 is a slower powder than the others listed here and is most often used in compensated guns, but I have shot some in 40 as well as 38 Super, 9 mm in std guns under very light bullets like 135gr 40. Powder preferences are more about the feel of the impluse in competition shooting so we tend to shoot what feels good even if it smokes a bit. It gets more complicated when you factor in bullet weight, some powders work great with a heavy bullet versus a lite bullet. Some powders are a little dirty but most will go to the end of a 400 round match without clogging the works except for wheel guns they need super clean powder. Hodgdon has their reloading data online http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp so you can look for loads in the bullet weight for each caliber and see what works. They don't have that many lead loads but some. Powder is plentiful these days and a pound will load from 700 to 1500 rounds depending on charge. One pound = 7000 grains, I wouldn't commit to an 8 lb keg till I know it works for me. Edited August 8, 2009 by CocoBolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwx40x40 Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 +1 for 231 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&W627shooter Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 231 was dirty when I used it. Tiregroup works great in 38, and I am just loading my first 124 gr 9mm on 3.5 gr Titegroup. I have also used TG in my .45 revo loads before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWPatriot Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 I have had good results with Universal Clays. There is reloading data for all four of those calibers on the Hodgdon website: Hodgdon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Checked my load book. This is interesting. 9 mm 124gr Montana gold = 4.7 gr WST 130pg OAL 1.150 40 S&W 185Gr Precision = 4.7 gr WST 170 pf OAL 1.180 45 ACP 200gr Precision = 4.7 gr of WST 170 pf. OAL 1.240 It just does not get any better than that load all 3 without changing the powder measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLISH LOCK Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 im with COCOBOLO on WST have used WST for long time and also leave powder measure the same for all 3 calibers seems to burn clean enough and low muzzle flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 I know that there is no such thing as a cure-all. I'm shooting lead in 9mm, .38 Super, .40, and .45. Is there single powder that is relatively clean burning that is a decent choice for all of these or am I stuck with having to buy different powders?ganderman A fellow shooter uses American Select in all his relaoding and swears by it. I have used it in mild loads of 38 Spceial, 357 Mag, 40 S&W and 45 ACP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bball97 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I know that there is no such thing as a cure-all. I'm shooting lead in 9mm, .38 Super, .40, and .45. Is there single powder that is relatively clean burning that is a decent choice for all of these or am I stuck with having to buy different powders?ganderman I've been using W 231 and just switched to WST when I started loading lead bullets because everyone said it is less smokey. Can't tell any difference on the smoke, but it seems to be a little more accurate in 38 Special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 231 is my go-to powder for all around use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Checked my load book. This is interesting.9 mm 124gr Montana gold = 4.7 gr WST 130pg OAL 1.150 40 S&W 185Gr Precision = 4.7 gr WST 170 pf OAL 1.180 45 ACP 200gr Precision = 4.7 gr of WST 170 pf. OAL 1.240 It just does not get any better than that load all 3 without changing the powder measure. You are going to have to change the powder funnel. Expect some tweaking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 4.7 gr WST doesn't make a 170 pf with a 200 gr swc out of my 5" Wilson. 4.8 barely made major, but who knows, my barrel might be a little played out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebg3 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Alliant's e3 works well in 9mm, .40 and 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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