Carlos Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 I really hate it when I read anything negative about USPSA or IDPA on the net. Link below is a sad illustration of a first experience gone wrong. Yes- I realize its a one-sided account and that the guy showed up with a shoulder rig for his 1st match. Its just a bummer it turned out as it did, and worse still, its posted on the net for other potential USPSA shooters to read. LINK to gunzone forum or try: http://www.ambackforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=50347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooting for M Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Poor guy, any one in O-H-I-O can send this guy an E-mail and give him a better experience? Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 not the way to increase USPSA membership count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I just registered and sent the guy a message. Hopefully we can salvage this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1b Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Now THAT is leadership Mike! Well done and Thanks! J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobert1 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 (edited) Congrats Mike. Your a bigger man than me. To be honest, after reading His post, ... (editied to stay within rules) Edited September 18, 2007 by bobert1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 mscott, pm heading your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XD Niner Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 (edited) It is always a shame to hear of a story like this gent's. My personal experience has been exactly the opposite but there is always an exception and this appears to be it. We had two new LEO shooters in our squad last Saturday. Nemo was RO'ing when one of them began to pivot backwards towards him when turning what should have been 90-degrees left to another array. It was the first time I had ever seen a bone white Puerto Rican. However, Nemo handled it very well and stopped the newbie in time to avoid breaking the 180. Nelson did spend a few minutes coaching him after the COF was complete in a professional yet serious manner. As usual, he did a great job in a difficult situation. Of course, he needed fresh shorts afterwards. The bottom line is that both new shooters seemed to have a great time. They asked questions and several of us gave them (probably too much) friendly advice. We made sure that they felt a part of the squad and they in turn carried their share and then some. I have a high degree of confidence that they will be back next month. The only way to grow this sport is to make our new shooters feel safe, welcome and appreciated. We were all new USPSA shooters once and hopefully one or more shooters took us under their wing during our first few matches. All of us should make sure we do so when a new shooter joins our squad. Edited September 18, 2007 by XD Niner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 That was kind of a raw deal but had he gone to the USPSA site and read a bit before he went the problem would have been lessened.---------------Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 We had two new LEO shooters in our squad last Saturday. Nemo was RO'ing when one of them began to pivot backwards towards him when turning what should have been 90-degrees left to another array. It was the first time I had ever seen a bone white Puerto Rican. <SNIP> Of course, he needed fresh shorts afterwards. Bone white Rican..? Fresh shorts..? You ain't lying, my friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 When I first read this ...I joined thier forum and posted to it. Just Braging about all you guys!!!! I hope we can do some good. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I got a little misty-eyed reading your post Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFlowers Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Anyone know, by process of elimination, what club this gentlemen might have gone to? I mean a Beretta 92 is a fine Production gun and we have brassed. The shoulder holster might have been a problem, but I've never shot at a club where noob problems were not things to work on rather than ridicule! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Santiago Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I've not been to many clubs in ohio but that does not sound like ANY match at any club that I've attended. I've found just the opposite. Maybe some misunderstanding on both sides?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Wow, that is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwx40x40 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I almost had compassion on this guy until he mentioned going to IDPA and other shooting sports. The IDPA clan will also let him know his shoulder holster and 15 round mags are no good there. Cowboys will not only not allow his M-9,but make him wear cowboy boots and button fly jeans!! I know we should and I always do everything I can to welcome new shooters and inform them of the rules and categories. If someone shows up with a shoulder holster and we have had it happen. We just inform them the reason we do not approve is because they would sweep everyone watching and most likely themselves with the muzzle when they draw their weapon. A huge no no in our sport. Also , be aware this could just be one those that already have a chip on their shoulder about our sport and preconcieved ideas of how we behave. I know as I mix and mingle with several different shooting crowds I have heard one or two fellows rant about USPSA snobberie and such. When confronted for specifics, one gentleman had never even been to a USPSA match. He said he was going off hear say. Be nice , be informative, but sometimes you can't cast pearls amonst pigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 (edited) I wish I had been a fly on the wall to see how/what/IF this happened. One side to the story does not always tell the tale. Edit to add.... Great first post by our BE members to present another side to this. Edited September 18, 2007 by Merlin Orr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 The guy sounds like he was closed-minded from the start ..... the way he said he had been reluctant to go to an IPSC shoot. Some men .... you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingchef Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I went and read the whole thread and I thought it was sad, really sad. But such is the way of man. Can"t we all just get along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Prior affiliation with another group that dislikes USPSA or not, I see this guy as an opportunity. For whatever reason he had a bad experience, and regardless of how much ownership he had in that, he's not yet enjoyed what I found when I came to this sport. Micah's offer to guide him to and through a *good* match sounds like the right medicine. We routinely debate marketing our sport and how to grow the membership. Here's a good chance to further that goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 It would be nice to find out if this guy is close to the Dayton / Columbus / Cincinnati area, because we have about 4 really nice clubs in S.W. Ohio that would be glad to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Both parties failed. The "club" obviously is due the lions share of our criticism. Someone needed to take a leadership role but managed to dork out on the guy. The new shooter has some coming too. I scratched my head some when the guy (I guess) just gathered up some gun stuff and headed out to his FIRST match. Nothin' to it right? One match observation would have eliminated the whole mess. Two sides to every story. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHolsted Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Very nice replies Jim & Micah! First rate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I sorta wonder if the guy is for real? his story just doesnt sound like ANY USPSA shooter I have ever met And Krispy....Why are you going around pinching everything Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 This is yet one more reason that ALL new shooters should go through an orientation PRIOR to their first IPSC match. It would be interesting to know what "club" this was at, because you have to wonder if it was a USPSA affiliate or an outlaw club. There's definitely a two-sided dynamic going on here, but this guy needed to be squared away *prior* to the match. If he didn't have a holster, they should have either provided one or started him from low-ready and let him shoot for funzies. Bad match management on someone's part... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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