ErikW Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 If I had breasts, I'd have sponsors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viggen Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Gender politics is a losing cause in the US if on the wrong side. It creeps in everywhere. No use fighting it, too much wasted effort. It doesn't matter how right or wrong the statement might be, it's gonna happen because..... for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPMartin Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 If I had breasts, I'd have sponsors. If you had breasts, we would all be scared! RPM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 If I had breasts, I'd never leave the house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LChico Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Is this a really big problem? Perhaps it is another regional difference, because I only know a handful of sponsored women shooters. The 3-gun match I am currently squadding has 5% women shooters, and 0 sponsored women. However there are 18 men who are sponsored (over 10% of the total registered), and that does not include the ones who paid the match fee and are reimbursed by sponsors for fees, provided bullets, firearms & other gear. Judging by the number who ask for receipts, so that they can be reimbursed for fees, I suspect you can double the number of male sponsored shooters. At Summer Blast, where nearly 10% of the shooters were female, we had only one sponsored woman shooter. Linda Chico (L-2035) Columbia SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Isn't Hi-Point looking for a GM with man-boobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viggen Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 (edited) You can actually put a pretty good trigger on a Hi-Point. I am not sure how the mag changes would go. Let's remember that the sponsor is a sponsor for their own best interests. It's their money and they decide where it will benefit them the most. It's their money therefore whatever decision they make - it's good. Edited September 23, 2006 by Viggen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 If I had breasts, I'd have sponsors. If there where equal numbers with and without playing the game then it wouldn't be true. As there are fewer with, more of them have sponsors. Supply and demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 If you had breasts you could double your chances for a date on the weekends... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 I have a pair and no one has ever offered to sponsor me about ANYTHING!! Something's skewed with this thinking...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Where's Carina when we need her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmist10 Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 If I had breasts, I'd have sponsors. More friends maybe, more sponsors - I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 If I had breasts, I'd have sponsors. Yes, but if you had sponsors when would you have time to shoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 FYI all humans are born with breasts, male or female, generally females are larger though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeInNePa Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 If you had breasts you could double your chances for a date on the weekends... I was gonna say that! Beaten to the punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT Driver Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 I have a tremendous amount of respect for the ladies that shoot our sport at all levels. Too bad there aren't more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 My 2 cents.... This December is going to be my 15th year shooting competitively. It took moving to another country (which happened on my 11th) to get sponsors for myself and I actually look at it from THEIR perspective in terms of target market, product, etc. I hate saying this but unfortunately, #1, there is only less than 10% of women in this sport...I don't have the exact figures but it's few compared to the men. If I were the business owner, of course I would target the bigger chunk of the market to sell my product. sad but true. #2, let's face it, our sport is politically not correct so there goes the corporate sponsors like Rolex, Nike, etc. There is no way you're gonna see ANY of our sponsored people with guns gracing the pages of mass market magazines and publications #3 Coverage. Media or whatever. Again, back to the gun issue. I don't mean to sound negative but I have tried. It's doubly hard for a woman because not only do you have to beat the women to get noticed, you got to beat the men but how can you do that without having to give up work and have someone support you to do that? It's a which-one-comes-first-the-chicken-or-the-egg kind of deal. Make no mistake, I am very grateful for my sponsors and what they have done to help me but it's a business for them first and foremost. And I understand that so I gratefully take what I can and just have fun shooting. Once you start doing that for a living, it's not fun anymore with all the pressure and it defeats the purpose of why you started shooting in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x21 Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 (edited) sHOOTER's Edited September 25, 2006 by 9x21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Tilley Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 If I were a woman, I would fill up a lot more pistol classes… I feel you Eric^^ DvC, Chris Tilley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Any stats out there.. for how many GM's are sponsored? How many female GMs? just curious.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharyn Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 (edited) Erik, boobs or not... you're just not pretty. I wonder if a slippery, wet, hard-bodied male would sell more beer... or cars... or freakin' hamburgers! This should have been posted under the protection of the Hate forum. Edited September 24, 2006 by Sharyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 If I were a woman, I would fill up a lot more pistol classes… I feel you Eric^^ DvC, Chris Tilley If you had the looks of Athena or Julie, maybe Thinking of you guys in drag teaching a class or giving a demo in drag just sends chills down my spine, and not the good ones. ps. Nice job at the Nats Chris. I wouldn't want to be a female in the sport most likely. Too many men being boys, you would have to have very thick skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 (edited) Sponsorship is a double-edged sword and no mistake. As Athena pointed out it brings it's own problems. Normally at a match any pressure that we feel comes from within, it is our desire to do well and not screw up that brings that pressure to bear. For a sponsored shooter they have that pressure plus that bought to bear by the sponsor. The shooter now HAS to perform to the highest level. If you don't start (and keep) winning matches then there is nothing in it for the sponsor. That pressure may not be overt but it is implied. If someone offered me sponsorship I would probably turn it down. Shooting for me is a fun thing. It takes my mind of work, allows me to focus instead on a good thing rather than a bad thing. If I had sponsorship then shooting a match would be like going to work. And work is a four-letter word at the weekend. As to why more women get sponsorship, as Sharyn pointed out, it's a photogenic thing. You could be the most talented sportsman in the world but if you're butt ugly then you are not going to get the sponsorship. Glamour sells, women on the whole are more glamourous than men, there are more paintings and statues of women than men so this is not a new thing, it's being going on for centuries. Women are nice to look at, they are all soft and curvy. Us men on the other hand are (generally speaking) nothing more than big, hairy lumpy things with as much grace and elegance as a common house-hold brick. Viva la difference ! I'm thrilled that some women in this sport have earned sponsorship, and they have earned it and I sincerely hope that they do well. That sponsorship may help the ladies to get more practice and match experience and that will pay dividends at the next World Shoot where we (USA) could bring back all the medals in 2008. Edited September 24, 2006 by BritinUSA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharyn Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Erik, just two more words outta me on this subject... Angus Hobdell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 (edited) And boobs are not the answer to EVERYTHING!!!! (And don't be saying it's the ONLY thing because I will have Chuck Norris roundhouse kick you until all your teeth fall off!) Edited September 24, 2006 by Athena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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