RIPsaw475 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Hi, long time lurker here. I was notified I do not post enough on here if I would like to keep using the classified section so I feel this is worthy of a post...to me. Might be only me, but I am weighing in. I have seen worse on here and it is a question I am interested in participating in. Thank you to the moderator that pm'd me for helping me come out of my shell or creeping these pages like pornhub. Since carry optics has been called or I have heard it somewhere (not implicating the Enos Forum) "the poor man's open" do you feel inadequate asking questions about Carry Optics on this forum of high end priced and tuned race guns? Most of the carry optic guns are essentially production guns with a dot on it. So most information about the gun itself can be found in the manufacturer sub-forums like CZ, SIG, Glock, etc. "Most" of the dot information is on here, equipment, or even the PCC sub-forums. But when you combine the gun and the dot that alters things just a bit, especially with out a comp, mag well, sub 2lb. trigger and a stock(pcc). Since I got into CO early this spring I have lurked this forum on occasion but most dialog and information is pertaining to the Open division. There is some on here but the search/scroll thumb soreness can be trying. Do you feel Carry Optics is strong enough to have its own sub-forum? Would you benefit from it? Would you be involved? Do you feel like a small fish in a big pond with your production gun, bigger magazine, and dot in here? By no means am I am rallying for Carry Optics sub-forum but I want my participation trophy and this subject does interest or pertain to me. Happy Holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo929 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Agree. I’ve been surprised it doesn’t have its own section. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPsaw475 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 A quick search of Carry Optics leads you to the ipsc/uspsa rules, glock, classified, and gear & accessories sub-forums in the top of the list? Seems it is spread throughout the main forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I would like to see a Carry Optics section too. I am just getting into that division coming from limited . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) Like divisions we probably have enough forums (IMO) I've found and started threads about CO things under the heading of the firearm, i.e. Sig, CZ Tanfo etc. I've never had a problem finding info on most things in either the manufacture area or the open area for optics. Maybe a sub forum in the open area Glad your getting more involved and I do think the subject has merit Edited November 30, 2019 by jcc7x7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClangClang Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I'll politely disagree. Mostly, I dont think any CO questions belong in the Open forum. I generally think that any CO-specific questions can just go in the appropriate "Factory Pistols" subforum. After all, by definition, a carry optics pistol must be a factory offering, just like Production. The simple addition of a red dot doesn't really change anything about the pistol itself. The Open forum is really about the pistols themselves, not the intrinsic qualities of the Division. And IMO that's warranted due to the finicky nature, endless tuning, etc of Open guns. For carry optics, 99% of the time, just stick an optic on a slide and go shoot. Technical questions about the optics themselves go in Gear and Accessories. And stage strategy/planning/techniques can go in any of the relevant stage forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeyxbat Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, RIPsaw475 said: Hi, long time lurker here. I was notified I do not post enough on here if I would like to keep using the classified section so I feel this is worthy of a post...to me. Might be only me, but I am weighing in. I have seen worse on here and it is a question I am interested in participating in. Thank you to the moderator that pm'd me for helping me come out of my shell or creeping these pages like pornhub. Since carry optics has been called or I have heard it somewhere (not implicating the Enos Forum) "the poor man's open" do you feel inadequate asking questions about Carry Optics on this forum of high end priced and tuned race guns? Most of the carry optic guns are essentially production guns with a dot on it. So most information about the gun itself can be found in the manufacturer sub-forums like CZ, SIG, Glock, etc. "Most" of the dot information is on here, equipment, or even the PCC sub-forums. But when you combine the gun and the dot that alters things just a bit, especially with out a comp, mag well, sub 2lb. trigger and a stock(pcc). Since I got into CO early this spring I have lurked this forum on occasion but most dialog and information is pertaining to the Open division. There is some on here but the search/scroll thumb soreness can be trying. Do you feel Carry Optics is strong enough to have its own sub-forum? Would you benefit from it? Would you be involved? Do you feel like a small fish in a big pond with your production gun, bigger magazine, and dot in here? By no means am I am rallying for Carry Optics sub-forum but I want my participation trophy and this subject does interest or pertain to me. Happy Holidays. I agree, it would easier especially for new shooters to find help or infos. Edited November 30, 2019 by Joeyxbat Add more content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, ClangClang said: I'll politely disagree. Mostly, I dont think any CO questions belong in the Open forum. I generally think that any CO-specific questions can just go in the appropriate "Factory Pistols" subforum. After all, by definition, a carry optics pistol must be a factory offering, just like Production. The simple addition of a red dot doesn't really change anything about the pistol itself. The Open forum is really about the pistols themselves, not the intrinsic qualities of the Division. And IMO that's warranted due to the finicky nature, endless tuning, etc of Open guns. For carry optics, 99% of the time, just stick an optic on a slide and go shoot. Technical questions about the optics themselves go in Gear and Accessories. And stage strategy/planning/techniques can go in any of the relevant stage forums. this Edited November 30, 2019 by echotango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPsaw475 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 I really never looked in gear and accessories for red dot information until a recent search for the general Carry Optics had a topic come up. Especially since red dot pistols is listed under the open gun title of the forum. I assumed it was more to do with holsters, belts, gear bags, timers, etc. I have all that for various divisions so I never glanced it. In my case I wanted to run a shadow 2 in Carry Optics since I had all the gear from production. This requires a bit more than buying a plate and adding a dot, it has to make weight. If your newer, you head over to the cz forum and at the time get in a long line to kiss the ring on the cz custom shop or CGW just started dabbling in milling slides. Both options (again a year ago, not sure what they offer now) require putting in a plastic guide rod in and not using the heaviest dot or base pads to make weight. Not the direction or value I had in mind. If I had not stumbled across a guy on a CZ Facebook page I would have never run across Fire4Effect. So instead of milling my slide I bought one of the full gun, dot, milled packages offered. Soon after that I heard about Primary Machine and their offerings for the Shadow 2. Again this was all around a year ago so things have changed and the info is on here if you search various topics. But some leg work was needed which some are for or against. So in my case one Carry Optic sub-forum would have been helpful for some of the various options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
je85 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) I think Carry Optics Should have a sub-forum as its one of the hottest growing divisions and it would help to unclutter things. Edited November 30, 2019 by je85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy kemlo Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Please set up a carry optics sub-forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadShot Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 A forum should be set up for carry optics. The only thing that it has in common with open is the red dot. It's a large enough division to have it own forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBamBoo Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Another vote for a CO sub-forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Ditto,,, a CO forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM83 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Would be nice to have a single place for all the CO stuff instead of hunting around the Open and individual brand forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Yes would like to see co added Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excursion12 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I agree, I’m thinking about getting into carry optics and it’s difficult to locate all the relevant posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock_dad Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Same, I think we need a CO forum.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07yzryder Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I think co and PCC are both emerging enough they could use a forum. PCC has alot of quirks when building from scratch. CO works well because it's a pistol I would carry edc vs my limited gun which is setup for competition only. With how fast the optics have advanced recently it would be helpful to see it all in one area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 6 hours ago, 07yzryder said: I think co and PCC are both emerging enough they could use a forum. PCC has alot of quirks when building from scratch. PCC does have its own. Under Multi-gun https://forums.brianenos.com/forum/318-pistol-caliber-carbine/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07yzryder Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 10 hours ago, echotango said: PCC does have its own. Under Multi-gun https://forums.brianenos.com/forum/318-pistol-caliber-carbine/ Explains why I haven't seen it, was assuming multigun was more 2/3 gun. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, 07yzryder said: Explains why I haven't seen it, was assuming multigun was more 2/3 gun. Thank you I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vgdvc Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Looking up info & topics in Carry Optics leads to a hybrid search in Production and Open, neither of which is comprehensive of CO. IMO Carry Optics interests would benefit from it's own forum. What is the protocol to petition for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Effectus Magis Per Minor Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I also would like to see a CO forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay1 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Sure, count me in on voting for a CO forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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