jimbullet Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Getting some opinion/ thoughts please. I have a 40 s&w 2011 STI standard division gun. Where do you usually zero your sights and what is the optimum point of aim on an IPSC plate. i.e. front sight at the centre of the plate or front sight at the based of the plate so that you can see the plate fully? What distances have these worked for you? I feel sometimes my point of impact is inconsistent with the various distances and trying to work this out. My pistol is zeroed at 15. This means that point if impact is on top of the front sight blade. For some reason in certain distances I feel that the hits are exactly where the fiber optic is on my front sight and on certain distances is just on the top of the front sight and sometimes is like I have to aim at the base of the steel target to hit it, otherwise the shots are too high. I need to do some experiment on different distances but with limited range time, I thought to pose this question to see what you all are experiencing and help me to fine tune what is the optimum way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapribek Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I sighted my STI at 50 feet, my indoor range. I aimed at the middle of the plate and this worked for me. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 58 minutes ago, jimbullet said: My pistol is zeroed at 15. This means that point if impact is on top of the front sight blade. I need to do some experimention at different distances Since I started shooting OPEN, with a dot, I like my FO sight to act like a dot - bullet goes in the middle of the dot. Use a thin FO (0.08") and it is very similar to shooting a C-More. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz-0 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I like to set mine up so the dot is where it hits. There is no best, it's personal preference. I zero my sights at 7 yards then refine it at 15. I then sanity check it for hitting a plate sized target at 20. If I got time and the set up I'll sanity check with a full sized ipsc at 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbullet Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 5 hours ago, raz-0 said: I like to set mine up so the dot is where it hits. There is no best, it's personal preference. I zero my sights at 7 yards then refine it at 15. I then sanity check it for hitting a plate sized target at 20. If I got time and the set up I'll sanity check with a full sized ipsc at 40. With yours zero at 7 yards and acting like a red dot (as the hits are where the fiber optic is), how does your point of impact look like compared to sights when shooting out at 20-25 yards? Is it still like where the fiber optic is or do you now hold down at 6 oclock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Get a package of 6" paper plates and use them as your practice and sight in "targets" Figure out what your mind see's, what sight picture you are actually using when you shoot steel. Mine is sighted at the top of the blade at 20 yds, I tend to hold in the bottom 1/3 of the plate when I'm shooting a match speed. that works for me based on using the paper plates while doing drills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) I zero at 25 yards and aim at the centre for everything. Edited August 4, 2019 by dansedgli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, dansedgli said: I zero at 25 yards and aim at the centre for everything. Sounds awfully simple …. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, dansedgli said: I zero at 25 yards and aim at the centre for everything. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastcat Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 hours ago, dansedgli said: I zero at 25 yards and aim at the centre for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOF Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, dansedgli said: I zero at 25 yards and aim at the centre for everything. +1. I zero irons at 25 yards to shoot to the center of the FO dot. There's not enough rise/fall from that to bother you for standard USPSA/Steel Challenge/IDPA targets/ranges. IDPA SSP Master, when I shot that game regularly. Edited August 4, 2019 by GOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewtac Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Using ballistics from a Hornady 180 grain xtp box load, a zero at 25 yds will result in one inch low at 5 yards, and one inch low at 50 yds; check your aim or flinch if your rounds are low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastcat Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, andrewtac said: Using ballistics from a Hornady 180 grain xtp box load, a zero at 25 yds will result in one inch low at 5 yards, and one inch low at 50 yds; check your aim or flinch if your rounds are low. Ballistics Calculator for 124gr at 1375 fps, same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbullet Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 20 hours ago, jcc7x7 said: Get a package of 6" paper plates and use them as your practice and sight in "targets" Figure out what your mind see's, what sight picture you are actually using when you shoot steel. Mine is sighted at the top of the blade at 20 yds, I tend to hold in the bottom 1/3 of the plate when I'm shooting a match speed. that works for me based on using the paper plates while doing drills That is a fantastic idea about paper plates. I will use that.... 11 hours ago, Lastcat said: 12 hours ago, andrewtac said: Using ballistics from a Hornady 180 grain xtp box load, a zero at 25 yds will result in one inch low at 5 yards, and one inch low at 50 yds; check your aim or flinch if your rounds are low. This is interesting - as its low at 50 yards, thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Zeroing distance is 18 and a half yards. NO MORE NO LESS On 8/4/2019 at 2:22 PM, andrewtac said: Using ballistics from a Hornady 180 grain xtp box load, a zero at 25 yds will result in one inch low at 5 yards, and one inch low at 50 yds; check your aim or flinch if your rounds are low. Won't be one inch low unless your sights are one inch tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewtac Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, waktasz said: Zeroing distance is 18 and a half yards. NO MORE NO LESS Won't be one inch low unless your sights are one inch tall. Good catch, I had rifle sight height of 1.5". Reran at 0.5" sight height; 5yds .21" low and at 50 2" low; one inch low at 41 yards. Still all well within the diameter of a steel plate out to 50 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheers623 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I zero both irons and red dots at 25 yards for 3-4” groups. Then shoot at my plate rack at 40 yards. Always hold for center of plates and never miss. Seems to consistently work on all my pistols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amerflyer48 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 My G34 in Production Division is sighted for FO dot on at 25 yds. I can hold a 5 1/2” group or so. 125 coated at 134 PF if I miss it’s me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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