Jump to content
Brian Enos's Forums... Maku mozo!


  • Content Count

  • Joined

  • Last visited

About raz-0

  • Rank
    Beyond it All
  • Birthday 05/27/1973

Contact Methods

  • Website URL
  • ICQ

Profile Information

  • Gender
  • Real Name
    Matt de Vries

Recent Profile Visitors

990 profile views
  1. I'll go with the "duh" suggestion just in case, but have you checked the primer? Insufficiently seated printers sometime don't go boom, trying to fire them just seats the primers fully and they will usually fire if you manually chock the hammer and fire a second time. I'd assume your checked this but since you didn't say...
  2. Yes people are making money buying p320s and partying them out. New? Dunno, but red box and other used ones? Definitely. I’m guessing new as well. Sig sells lots of parts, but not all of them. Their pricing is ok, but the chop shops are generally cheaper. As far as I can tell, it’s the 80% crowd driving the market. But a standard full size 320 via parts comes in around $600 with no mags. That may or may not need a striker assembly, I was never able to determine If that came with the slide and barrel. And that’s about the cheapest I found. Also that was pre-panic buying.
  3. Is there any brand of 2011 that has a service and customer support structure there? If so, i'd seriously consider that one. As a data point, I've seen a fair number of Atlas guns at 3 gun and USPSA matches the last year (mostly titans, mostly 9mm) which is pretty significant representation for the price point. There didn't seem to be a lot of drama with them though, which is a good sign. As for Cheely, can't put forth anything like an opinion. I haven't seen too many in this neck of the woods. Or I haven't noticed them. There's something to be said for a distinct look.
  4. I love my aftecs, but they are all purchased 2008 or earlier. the one in my .45 has about 10k on it, the one in my .40 has a bit over 70k and has had one spring change in that time.
  5. My $0.02 is that the rule changes regarding division gear mostly make a kind of sense these days. You may not like them, but they do appear to be driven by a couple of key concepts. 1) USPSA needs a division to accommodate what is selling in the marketplace, otherwise we place barriers to new participation. 2) Existing members get upset when they can't show up and shoot with stuff they already purchased. The divisions tend to expand and accommodate more and more. The only people really left complaining very hard are those who believe newly accessible gear actually offers a competitive advantage and feel they will need to buy new gear. A lot of newbies willing to show up and compete will dump a shocking amount of money on a new gun without talking to anyone. If you want to see the power of rules to drive someone away, telling someone their $2000 shiny new franken-whatever has no place to shoot but open does a pretty solid job. The fact of it is, that unlike the 1911 platform of old, on a lot of more modern modular striker fired guns, a lot of modifications are accessible to even the mildly competent DIYer with less than a c-note and a bit of determination. It's just not the spending race it used to be. Additionally, you have a lot of potential shooters saddled with 10 round capacity limits. That's about 80 million people. If you want growth, or even to just replace churn, you need to be accessible to the available supply of people. So we got carry optics, and we got changes to production that allow people who already carved all over their cool guy glock with a soldering iron to show up and shoot. I could take the magwell off my gun and shoot production, but I'd put it back for 3 gun. So for now I'll shoot it L10 minor. Lots of divisons has it's problems. It used to be a pain for MDs. Having done that job, scoring included, pre-practiscore I have great sympathy. However practiscore has made that not much of a big deal. Unless you are the competitive type who wants to force other people to play in your sandbox so you can show them what's what. But if that's you, we are ow on at least year 15 or 20 of listening to you complain that it's anything but heads up winner takes all and whining about any match that dare do random draw for prizes in any form. TrackCage's idea is something I'd possibly shoot. A broad category with a smattering of mutually exclusive options might be interesting.
  6. I have the AC trigger. I have attempted to measure how much you can depress the drop safety in the striker before disengaging it. I then tried to reference it off of the slide rails and slide rail cuts. As near as I can tell almost everyone complaining about the 2 stage "creep" of the trigger is complaining about about the transition form just the load of the drop safety (i.e. stage 1) being disengaged and adding on the resistance of the sear being engaged. The people at gray guns seem to think you can't take out pre-travel without eliminating the drop safety. The people at armory craft think that if you need it to be maximally safe you need to not install the pre-travel adjustment screw. I can tell you that I tried to and believe I have taken out a little bit without disabling the safety, but it's negligible. And that there is a really easy and objective way to tell what is too far. and if you remove pre-travel enough to get to "ooh that's much nicer" without the gray guns springs and sear, you are bast that point. Now this is definitely the kind of thing that someone with a mill, spare slide, and the will to do a cutaway could come up with a definitive answer to. I can tell you that I have a couple spare strikers because I've had them break on other guns. Not a one of them needs the drop safety wedge(?) thing depressed fully to disengage like some have suggested. My best guess due from measuring relative positions of things, and I'm not 100% certain this is the threshold of safety, it may be less, is that if your pre-travel adjustment raises the lever to be even with the bottom of the dinosaur head on the disconnector, you have likely disabled the drop safety. If you have raised the lever to the top of the slide rail on the chassis, you have definitely disabled it. I got the trigger in the very first batch. Nothing in it listed a safe amount of pre-travel. So if anyone has any pointers to where they do now, I'd be glad to see it.
  7. Neat approach. Kind of pricey. If it’s a nice light trigger that is broadly compatible it’s not horribly priced. If it is say a crisp 4lb then I don’t see it taking off.
  8. Sorry man, shotguns ARE the topic of this thread. Or at least a good chunk of it. I'll get to some of the other parts of it as well, but you will see shotgun leading the charge on a lot of those, or at least being the point of most friction. I know you say people who hate shotgun usually love shotgun after they get to use your shotgun. I shoot more 3 gun now than ever before, and I HATED shotgun. I decided to play the shotgun game and spend the money on the gear, and guess what? I still don't love shotgun. But at least it stopped sucking ALL of the fun out of matches and moved it to kind of neutral. And some of the issues are circular, so I'll start at the beginning. So first there's what it takes to start shooting: You got to show up with the gear to get to the end of the match and most people probably have to go out and buy something, even if coming from USPSA or IDPA or another discipline. Lets take a broad swath of potential 3 gun noobs. Every person that owns a polymer striker fired 9mm capable of holding 15-17 rounds and an AR with a $100 red dot on top is our baseline. Lets say they want to show up and have a shot at winding up somewhere near the top of the bottom third or bottom of the middle third if they can shoot decently. Pistol: worst case to you got two mags with the gun. Buy two more. Buy three mag pouches and a cheap plastic holster Cost: $70-$190. And if you have shot nearly anything else, you probably don't have to. If you have taken training classes, you probably don't have to. It's the most likely to be owned already, and you can probably drop one mag pouch if you want. Rifle: Make sure you have 4 mags and two mag pouches. One probably came with the gun. So three mags and two mag pouches. $65-90. Shotgun: Do you own one? Maybe. It's probably a pump 870 or 590 and doesn't hold enough rounds. So to have a real disappointing time, you are going to want to buy a tube for it and some load 2/load 4 caddies. Based on my experience, anything less than 24 rounds of caddies gives you about a 50/50 shot of being screwed on at least one stage at any given match. That's three 8 up caddies at $90 each and a tube for your 870 with a new follower and spring, so another $75 there. $345 to show up and not be very competitive. You aren't competitive, so maybe you can shave a few bucks and go with some old school caddies. To get 24, you need 4x6 rounders and they are $30 a pop. So $195. Or you could just take them out of a shell bag and use you 5 round shotugun and time out on every shotgun stage. That's about $25 and super fun. If you didn't own a basic pump gun, make that like $250 to do that. And you may not even have the ability to use chokes. So some stages are just going to be hard to get the hits when you aren't out of ammo. The reality is lots of people would need to buy the shotgun, and to get in and play fairly competitively, it's going to cost just about $1000 and you will NEVER use that stuff for anything else. When you consider about a 3rd of that are items that may be like holsters and have a running cost tied to a goldilocks style problem of going through options until you find the one that is just right, well... (I'm about $500 into shotgun ammo carrying options before having settled, and I'm stil occasionally borrowing stuff). It's also a 5 foot long monstrosity you wouldn't ACTUALLY every use for anything given any other option. Hunting? Stupid. Home defense? Stupid. Skeet and trap? Stupid if you can even get past the offended fudds. Sporting clays? Likely disallowed. Truck gun? Doesn't fit. And you'll need at least a soft sided long gun bag. $80. And a belt. It adds up and even without shotgun being as stupid as it is. the cost to go from owning more than half the stuff to having a viable setup isn't cheap. Then there is ammo. Shotgun ammo fluctuates the least, but very few people reload it, so you are looking at $0.22 to $0.30 a round. And you have to carry it around. It may or may not be cheaper than your pistol or rifle ammo, but it will always be heavy and bulky. Which brings in the cart. More cost, or you can bust your hump with a couple bags and wonder where you put the sunscreen and water. If someone goes nuts with shotgun at a match, even with a cart, I gotta plan resupply from the car. Which brings in the pack rat nature of 3 gun. USPSA, I can go from not ready to ready to hit the range in about 3 minutes. Packing it in my car takes about 20 seconds. A carbine match is similar. A 2 gun match Is a couple minutes more work. Add in the shotgun and bring the total up to three guns, and it's 15 minutes on both ends to pack and unpack. Add to that it is complex matches and long days and it's easier to get burned out. And when you lose someone, it's hard to replace them because of the above. If someone is committed, they are more likely to shoot a bigger match than a smaller match. A small match will cost me ~$40. I can get into decent matches for $120 and do less labor. And the reality is the pool of shooters is only so big and we have a LOT of matches. Choosing to go to more organized matches, I'm not left with a lot of free weekends. SO for local clubs, recruiting noobs is hard, and the experienced people are likely to be traveling elsewhere (this may be more prevalent on the east coast, but that's where I am). From the standpoint of running a match, dealing with stage design and safety, it gets easier with less guns. Granted, 3 gun brings the in the B&D stage descriptions and eliminates a lot of the freestyle stuff that eats time and effort designing around, but it replaces it with a lot of other stuff. 3 gun still takes more time to design, set up, and make safe. You want more access to noobs and less attrition, you go to 2 gun or just run a pistol match. Your guys are getting burnt out running things, the same options may cut back on what is burning you out. Then there's the rules. It's better than ever before, and I have yet to encounter two matches with the exact same rules. 3GN helped it get closer than ever before, but I don't know that with the complexity of three guns and the vagaries of range management, you will ever beat that. Lots of people don't like it. There's definitely a contingent of noobs who feel a lot better about showing up and trying something if they can grasp it. USPSA intimidates those people through complexity, and 3gun just makes their head explode trying to find a rule set to understand. Then there's facilities. I hold a USPSA match, and leave rifle pits open, it may save me a lot of headaches with the management of a range. If I have the people, if I don't have the space, rifle gets kind of stupid in addition to shotgun being kind of stupid. Which brings in PCC. If I want to shoot rifle in pistol sized pits, I can just go lightweight on the gear and drag a bag and a PCC to a USPSA match or a dedicated PCC match. Cheap to shoot, easily and quickly reloaded ammo compared to rifle rounds, and a tricked out rifle costs about the same as a cheap but effective shotgun setup. Unless they were total crap compared to my current 3 gun itinerary, I'd switch to 2 gun in a heartbeat. The exception being 3-man 3gun stuff cause it's a special kind of fun, and open terrain matches cause they are their own experience I can't get elsewhere and with LOOOOONG stages, the negatives of shotgun are less punishing. Shotgun also opens up more terrain for use, which actually enhances the match experience. (and you get people not attending open terrain matches because long range rifle is slow and is too hared to be really good at and can totally tank your match, kind of like the shotgun reloading). I'd like to shoot 2 gun at my club, but the attendance isn't there and they moved to embracing PCC at the pistol matches and that was more or less the death of it. I'm also seeing more and more where if you are shooting in pistol pits, people are keeping it to 9 in the gun to start unless in open, and keeping it to 16 or less targets. Open guys either get to skip reloading, or get a quick reload, everyone else gets away with less gear on their belt. Standards for stage design that enshrined such thinking would lower the cost of entry and make an optimal shotgun less stupid and possibly useful for something else. I still don't see that fixing it. Then there's the fact people just sort of went nuts for 3 gun. There was always going to be contraction, and we got a bit of oversupply of matches. But to add to that, there are competing forces Those with money to burn and a love of the fads are off playing precision rifle. If you have no love of shotgun and don't have access to a supply of 100yard plus pits, PCC is cheap and cheerful long gun shooting. If you REALLY love roaming through the woods with a shotgun and a stroller, sporting clays is a nice day and more laid back than a 3 gun match. I've seen all three take chunks out of our local 3 gun shooter base.
  9. As a data point, I picked up one with a 12-19-2019 build date on the box, and there's no loaded chamber indicator on the barrel. The guy I ordered it through picked up an additional one for inventory, and that one also had no loaded chamber indicator. So maybe Sig got the hint.
  10. You can switch between minor and major, but you an also switch between ss and limited with your reloading equipment. Which also means you can bulk buy your components for both as well. I suspect that's where the real convenience lies.
  11. 9mm without a comp is the right choice for a third barrel. It let's you shoot 3 gun with optimal capacity and let's you shoot stuff with the cheapest ammo option.
  12. Sig says it doesn't. However, if it fits and locks, it should jsut be a matter of adjustment and maybe trimming some bits. I've been doing some research myself on the subject, and the only retention holsters I can find are all using a flippy hood. Who makes those: red hill tactical dara holster TR holsters weber tactical.
  13. Recoil spring depends on what you started with. I run a variable rate 15, some folks run 12, or even 11. I replace mine whenever the timing of the slide cycling feels wonky. at ~80k rounds I think I'm on my third I doubt I ever got them fatigued enough to be mean to the gun, and certainly never enough to affect reliability. My firing pin spring still seems about the same length and same squishyness as the umpteen of them in the parts box because they came with every recoil spring I ever purchased. I'm debating if I need to replace the mainspring. I keep spare fiber for my sight, a spare pin set, spare recoil spring, spare pin for bomar-style hinges and all the hex keys and punches I need to disassemble and adjust. Things I've actually needed at a match - spare fiber, a spare front sight, and a pin for the hinge on my bomar style sight. Things I've used at a match, but didn't actually need - spare recoil spring. A well built 2011 should only really consume springs, and fairly slowly at that. Muzzle blast will dull fiber. External objects may eat your sights. That's about it.
  14. I like to set mine up so the dot is where it hits. There is no best, it's personal preference. I zero my sights at 7 yards then refine it at 15. I then sanity check it for hitting a plate sized target at 20. If I got time and the set up I'll sanity check with a full sized ipsc at 40.
  15. Had that happen on one of my 1911s. Followed the peening advice. Turned out the pin had broken in two. Attempting to peen it was counterproductive. My $0.02 is if it wasn't walking the whole time and suddenly it is with no changes, verify nothing broke.
  • Create New...