Superpipe9 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I don’t know why but VVN320 just doesn’t meter well in my 650. Actually none of the extruded powders meter well. Don’t know why but I can set it up for 4.5g and randomly get anywhere from 4.4 to 4.7. Really sucks. Flake and small granular powder works fantastic though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanks Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 19 hours ago, Superpipe9 said: I don’t know why but VVN320 just doesn’t meter well in my 650. Actually none of the extruded powders meter well. It has metered extremely well in both my 650 and later the 1050 and I have used the same powder measure when I switched from one to the other for the .40 S&W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim6918 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I have a pile of PD 180 gr. FMJ RN laying around and would like to use it up with N320. Look for plinking loads at this point, just punching holes. Softer recoil. I'm finding somewhat conflicting data. CCI SPP Glock 22 and 23. 1.125 OAL (don't see this OAL that much except in the books) Does 4.8 N320 seem about right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) Guys, how many FPS did each grain get you as you dialed the load in? I just ran a new 180 gr precison delta JHP load to 866 FPS on 4.9 gr of n320 out of my titan loaded to 1.185 COL. Do I need to be at 5.1 or 5.2 to get to 940 FPS / 169 PF? Caveat- I was very close to my Chrono. Would that impact results? Thought 4.9 would be closer to MPF. Could crimp also be a culprit? If so, please elaborate on how to measure the right level. Edited September 8, 2018 by Paulie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candiru Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Guys, how many FPS did each grain get you as you dialed the load in? I just ran a new 180 gr precison delta JHP load to 866 FPS on 4.9 gr of n320 out of my titan loaded to 1.185 COL. Do I need to be at 5.1 or 5.2 to get to 940 FPS / 169 PF? Caveat- I was very close to my Chrono. Would that impact results? Thought 4.9 would be closer to MPF. Could crimp also be a culprit? If so, please elaborate on how to measure the right level. Results are not necessarily linear. Assuming you're not using a labradar or magnetospeed, you should be 10 feet from the chrono. Follow the best practices for reloading and test carefully. There's a variety of good reloading manuals out there. Vihtavuori's in available online but it's good to read a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Test at 5.0 and 5.1, that should be your sweet spot.. Mine is 5.2 , but I load out to 1.20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 53 minutes ago, Furrly said: Test at 5.0 and 5.1, that should be your sweet spot.. Mine is 5.2 , but I load out to 1.20 You running a titan? Similar load recipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 On 8/26/2018 at 1:46 PM, jim6918 said: I have a pile of PD 180 gr. FMJ RN laying around and would like to use it up with N320. Look for plinking loads at this point, just punching holes. Softer recoil. I'm finding somewhat conflicting data. CCI SPP Glock 22 and 23. 1.125 OAL (don't see this OAL that much except in the books) Does 4.8 N320 seem about right? 4.8gr of N320 is in the major PF range. If you just want to plink, I'd drop the charge a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 4.1 N320 under a Bayou 200 gr RN. WSPM primer. 1.200 OAL 171 PF. KKM barrel in a 5" 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911FL Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) I am running an Atlas Titan...My load is 5 grains of n320 loaded to 1.18 inches using Winchester brass and 180 grain Precision Delta‘s over Winchester small primers. I use my I-gaging absolute origin calipers to confirm a crimp of .423 as well as a Dillon case gage. Using my Labradar, this load delivers an average of 959 ft per second with a standard deviation of 8.1...172pf. It’s a soft and accurate load. Hope this helps. Edited September 9, 2018 by 1911FL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 On 9/8/2018 at 4:08 AM, Paulie said: You running a titan? Similar load recipe? I run this load on my Nemesis and SVI.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 11 hours ago, 1911FL said: I am running an Atlas Titan...My load is 5 grains of n320 loaded to 1.18 inches using Winchester brass and 180 grain Precision Delta‘s over Winchester small primers. I use my I-gaging absolute origin calipers to confirm a crimp of .423 as well as a Dillon case gage. Using my Labradar, this load delivers an average of 959 ft per second with a standard deviation of 8.1...172pf. It’s a soft and accurate load. Hope this helps. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkid17 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 N320 with 180gr Black Bullets @ 1.190” 4.6gr: 917 FPS PF: 165 4.8gr: 945 FPS PF: 170 5.0gr: 983 FPS PF: 176 5.2gr: 996 FPS PF: 179 I use 5 grains but might drop to 4.9 but it runs great at 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydrostatic Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) My load is for IPSC at 170PF minimum Labradar Elevation: 1515m (4970ft) Temperature: 15C (59F) 5.3 Grains of VV N320 w/Campro 180gr TCFP @ 1.175" OAL and CCI SPP500 primers All Speer Head Stamps: STI Trojan w/Stock 5.0" Bushing Barrel: 177.1PF (16.2SD) STI DVC Classic w/Stock 5.4" Bushing Barrel: 179.5PF (21.5SD) All RP Head Stamps: STI Trojan w/Stock 5.0" Bushing Barrel: 175.3PF (16.0SD) STI DVC Classic w/Stock 5.4" Bushing Barrel: 176.8PF (19.3SD) Mixed Brass (Federal, Speer, RP, Winchester, Blaser, and I'm sure a bunch of other brands): STI Trojan w/Stock 5.0" Bushing Barrel: 173.5PF (21.0SD) STI DVC Classic w/Stock 5.4" Bushing Barrel: 175.2PF (27.9SD) Edited September 14, 2018 by hydrostatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudreaux78 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I’m running a MG 180 JHP with 5.3 of N320 at 1.185 OAL and make 171 PF out of a SV AET Schuman 5.4 sight tracker barrel with a sub 2 inch group at 20 yards supported, not a ransom rest. Get the same out of a 180 FMJ Winchester bullet, except group opens up to about 2.5 inches. Still pretty good either way. Hope that helps someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 7/28/2018 at 10:43 AM, Almo said: 4.9 grains N320, 180 TCFM Zero bullet, 1.185" OAL, various brass, Federal primer. Makes 171 power factor out of Atlas 1911 or STI 2011. By the way, what do you crimp to? I've crimping to 0.423 - 0.424". It's been suggested that I crimp tighter to avoid the possibility of setback during feeding and subsequent high pressure. I crimp between .001-.002", so if the case measures 0.424 a few millimeters below the mouth, then I go to the very edge of the mouth and it'll measure between 0.422 and 0.423". More crimp does not help avoid bullet set back. An undersized resize die (U die) will do that. If you put too much crimp on you can run into other problems. Remember, most semi auto pistol cartridges are head spaced off of the case mouth. I just crono'd this load today: Cloudy, 36°, 4.8gr. VVN320, 180 Zero jhp, 1.180"COL, Win small pistol primer, 918 FPS, 165.2 PF Gonna need to bump it up a bit. (gun was an Atlas 5" 1911) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almo Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 7:20 PM, Turtle said: Turtle, Adam at Atlas suggested crimping to 0.421. I've started doing that and it seems to be working well. I do use a Lee resizing die, so that probably helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beta1759 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 9/8/2018 at 5:59 AM, muncie21 said: 4.8gr of N320 is in the major PF range. If you just want to plink, I'd drop the charge a bit. thats what i use. 4.8gr N320 w 180gr bayou @ 1.17 oal. 171 PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJB05 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 On 8/16/2018 at 12:52 PM, cs62 said: 4.7 N320 180 gr Gallant truncated cone CCI SPP 1.185" OAL Mixed range brass 171pf Atlas Nemesis I use the exact same for my Nemesis. Except I use federal primers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 4:49 PM, Almo said: Thanks Almo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew13 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 STI DVC-L 5” .40 S&W 180 grain FN Blue Bullet 4.6 grain N320 CCI spp Mixed range brass 1.180” COAL 167.33 PF OR (because I am posting this during the 2020 Great Primer Shortage) STI DVC-L 5” .40 S&W 180 grain FN Blue Bullet 4.4 grain N320 CCI MAGNUM spp Mixed range brass 1.180” COAL 168.25 PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 3.8 gr N320 200 gr coated bullet at 1.190" gives 826 fps and a PF of 165.2 groups 1.89" at 25yds and is very soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkaratemonkeyfighter Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Seems like a decent group. what bullet shape ? Have you ever tired anything heavier than the 200gr ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassBrass Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 On 10/9/2018 at 10:28 PM, Boudreaux78 said: I’m running a MG 180 JHP with 5.3 of N320 at 1.185 OAL and make 171 PF out of a SV AET Schuman 5.4 sight tracker barrel with a sub 2 inch group at 20 yards supported, not a ransom rest. Get the same out of a 180 FMJ Winchester bullet, except group opens up to about 2.5 inches. Still pretty good either way. Hope that helps someone Helps immensely, near same setup, same components, just needed a good point to work up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Effectus Magis Per Minor Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Remington R1 Enhanced 5” 1911. I have settled on OAL 1.160, 4.5 grains N320, 180 grain Blue RNFP for 940 FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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