P.E. Kelley Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 First one outside of Mesa AZ! Written review link in the video description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darqusoull13 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Gosh darn it, I really don't need another CZ. If I just don't click it maybe I wont be tempted.... Too late. Stuart, will these be offered in 40 for a TS frame since they are based on a TS slide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutycalls75 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) This looks awesome. I want one. In the video it said the slide is a TS length. So is the barrel going to be the same length as a TS (5.23 inches) I thought at the shot show last year CZC said it was going to be a 5 inch barrel. (Likely so it would qualify for IPSC production) Edited December 13, 2017 by Dutycalls75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlvrDragon50 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, Dutycalls75 said: This looks awesome. I want one. In the video it said the slide is a TS length. So is the barrel going to be the same length as a TS (5.23 inches) I thought at the shot show last year CZC said it was going to be a 5 inch barrel. (Likely so it would qualify for IPSC production) I have a feeling it will take a long time for it to qualify for Production since it's a custom shop gun with the bull barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) so this is basically a manufactured cts but with a new barrel? am i over simplifying it? with the cts being on the Prod list I'm sure this will get there no doubt. add some super aggressive checkering front and rear (an added cost in manufacturing i know, and to be passed on to the consumer) and i think it would be great! Edited December 13, 2017 by rowdyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlvrDragon50 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 2 hours ago, rowdyb said: so this is basically a manufactured cts but with a new barrel? am i over simplifying it? with the cts being on the Prod list I'm sure this will get there no doubt. add some super aggressive checkering front and rear (an added cost in manufacturing i know, and to be passed on to the consumer) and i think it would be great! Isn't this going to change it entirely because you lose the bushing. That's a pretty big modification, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glock24 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I had a CTS a couple years ago, and asked CZ Custom about adding a bull barrel. They said no. They were worried about the CZ slide being too thin in places. At 2017 SHOT Angus said they decided to make their own slide to hold a bull barrel. So I guess this is a "CTS-like" slide and bull barrel. Angus also mentioned that they'd be working on their own frame next. I want one, but I'm spoiled by the checkering on my Shadow 2. If they offer this slide/barrel combo on a Shadow 2 frame . . . I AM IN!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I have a feeling it will take a long time for it to qualify for Production since it's a custom shop gun with the bull barrel.Actually, given that they are making their own frames & slides and given the regime change that has/is happening in IPSC is expect approval to in the works already.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutycalls75 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 11 hours ago, Matt1 said: Actually, given that they are making their own frames & slides and given the regime change that has/is happening in IPSC is expect approval to in the works already. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Unless part of the regime change in IPSC is to repeal the max 5” barrel rule that they have, the Bull Shadow will never qualify for IPSC Production. It’ll be like the Glock 34. Given that USPSA already recognizes CZC guns for the Production list, and you only have to certify that 2000 have been made I think it’ll qualify quickly. If it releases at Shot I would say that it’ll qualify before Nationals in the fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 From the article that most don't read. SPECS Type: Hammer-fired pistol Cartridge: 9mm Capacity: 15+1 rds. Trigger: 3.5 lbs. (SA); 7 lbs. (DA) Overall Length: 8.5 in. Barrel Length: 4.8 in. Weight: 40 oz. Width: 1.6 in. MSRP: $1,495 –$1,650 Manufacturer: CZ USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Nice. Thanks. Agreed--build a Shadow 2 frame version and I will get one for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoKimberDave Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 This slide on that new frame would be spectacular. Or on a S2 frame as glock24 mentions. Although I would happily take it exactly as it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darqusoull13 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Well, I heard back on the 40 bull barrel Tac Sport..that's a no go or no plans or just waiting for SHOT.... Here's to hoping starting a rumor will generate demand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludde Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Dutycalls75 said: Unless part of the regime change in IPSC is to repeal the max 5” barrel rule that they have, the Bull Shadow will never qualify for IPSC Production. It’ll be like the Glock 34. Given that USPSA already recognizes CZC guns for the Production list, and you only have to certify that 2000 have been made I think it’ll qualify quickly. If it releases at Shot I would say that it’ll qualify before Nationals in the fall. If its only 4.8" ~121mm then it qualifies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutycalls75 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, P.E. Kelley said: From the article that most don't read. SPECS Type: Hammer-fired pistol Cartridge: 9mm Capacity: 15+1 rds. Trigger: 3.5 lbs. (SA); 7 lbs. (DA) Overall Length: 8.5 in. Barrel Length: 4.8 in. Weight: 40 oz. Width: 1.6 in. MSRP: $1,495 –$1,650 Manufacturer: CZ USA Well I’m confused then. In the video you say at 1:14 that it’s a CZ long slide. Then you say specifically at 1:26 that it is a tac sport length slide. Standard length CZ SP01 Shadow has a 4.7 inch barrel. Shadow 2 has a 4.89 in barrel. Both are not considered long slides. The Tac Sport has an overall length of 8.86 inches and a barrel length of 5.23 inches. From the pictures it does look like it might be a Tac Sport length slide or at least a slide that is longer than standard, Shadow but if that is the case then the barrel has to be longer than 4.8 inches. Any clarification on this inconsistency would be appreciated. Edited December 14, 2017 by Dutycalls75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent #1911 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 thanks for the video Mr. Kelley. very nice gun. I am hoping that they will be released with the adj rear just like the Shadow Target but milled deeper in the slide. I'd buy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
858 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I'd like a gunsmith fit TS barrel but I'm not sure I care about a bull barrel. The pistol weighs 48 ounces already and CGW makes tool steel bushings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 4 hours ago, Dutycalls75 said: Well I’m confused then. In the video you say at 1:14 that it’s a CZ long slide. Then you say specifically at 1:26 that it is a tac sport length slide. Standard length CZ SP01 Shadow has a 4.7 inch barrel. Shadow 2 has a 4.89 in barrel. Both are not considered long slides. The Tac Sport has an overall length of 8.86 inches and a barrel length of 5.23 inches. From the pictures it does look like it might be a Tac Sport length slide or at least a slide that is longer than standard, Shadow but if that is the case then the barrel has to be longer than 4.8 inches. Any clarification on this inconsistency would be appreciated. Barrel is 4.975 from breechface to muzzle Overall length compared to Shadow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 6 hours ago, Dutycalls75 said: The Tac Sport has an overall length of 8.86 inches and a barrel length of 5.23 inches. Pull out a TS barrel and measure it. CZ is terrible at measuring barrels. the TS is a 5" gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, Gooldylocks said: Pull out a TS barrel and measure it. CZ is terrible at measuring barrels. the TS is a 5" gun. I already put the TS away. TS is like 5.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, eerw said: I already put the TS away. TS is like 5.2 I was remembering like 5.1 when I measured mine, but I could definitely be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Gooldylocks said: I was remembering like 5.1 when I measured mine, but I could definitely be wrong haha, sounds good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Just now, eerw said: haha, sounds good to me. Haha yeah kinda picking nits at that point I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Sorry for the confusion. That is why I put that info in article that accompanied the video. I just got the gun the day before the match and had no time to measure anything. So my "off the cuff" info was less than correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Thanks again for the video. Hell, three-fourths of the comments on the forum are off the cuff. I like that gun and the video and wish I could shoot as well as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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