brytec Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Wanted to know what bullet is best for 38 super comp open gun for major and why? FMJ, plated, ect.. Thanks Bryan Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brytec Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) Wanted to know what bullet is best for 38 super comp open gun for major and why? Barrel has 5 holes....FMJ, plated, ect.. Thanks Bryan I am looking at xtreme bullets xcb43552 9mm .355 124 RN, are these any good? Edited April 13, 2016 by brytec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) JHP. No exposed lead base like FMJ and might be a little more accurate. Montana Gold makes a CMJ with the base covered to prevent leading, if your pistol prefers/feeds better a round nose profile. Most of the reviews here on plated bullets seem negative in terms of accuracy. Moly/Poly/Coated bullets seem to have those who say they cause a lot of build up in the comp while others say they don't have any. These will shoot softer than jacketed bullets as they probably seal a little better and require less powder for the same PF. Edited April 13, 2016 by al503 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr88 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 JHP for major. You might try a Hi-tek coated bullet as a minor load for steel. I've had some success with these. It may take some experimentation to find the same POI with major and minor loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 MG JHP. For the reasons stated above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jnr88 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) Don't forget Precision Delta and Zero. Along with MG this is your universe! Edited April 14, 2016 by jnr88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt1911 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Hey guys, So I am new to loading major, can you guys tell me what you think about Precisionbullets.com The coating is "melt proofed" or something, and as long as you don't crimp through the coating you'll be fine.. No exposed lead. Check them out, Ted Bonnet seems to like them quite a bit! Would not these be a good option to shoot major with as well due to their extreme heat resistant coating? Amat Victoria Curam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Hey guys, So I am new to loading major, can you guys tell me what you think about Precisionbullets.com The coating is "melt proofed" or something, and as long as you don't crimp through the coating you'll be fine.. No exposed lead. Check them out, Ted Bonnet seems to like them quite a bit! Would not these be a good option to shoot major with as well due to their extreme heat resistant coating? Amat Victoria Curam Those are moly coated instead of hitek like most Coated bullets. I've used the precision coated before and they made my barrel very dirty wasn't a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Hey guys, So I am new to loading major, can you guys tell me what you think about Precisionbullets.com The coating is "melt proofed" or something, and as long as you don't crimp through the coating you'll be fine.. No exposed lead. Check them out, Ted Bonnet seems to like them quite a bit! Would not these be a good option to shoot major with as well due to their extreme heat resistant coating? Amat Victoria Curam Those are moly coated instead of hitek like most Coated bullets. I've used the precision coated before and they made my barrel very dirty wasn't a fan. Tried them once too. That moly coating is a bitch to get out of the barrel. These are sort of " first generation" coated bullets and are not even close to the newer coatings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt1911 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Hmm, OK, well I guess I'll look into some inexpensive jacketed or plated bullets then. Thanks! Amat Victoria Curam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mro111lland Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I have tried almost every brand of coated and plated bullets in major 9, what i found is at major pf all coated bullets left lead in the comp and smoked,for plated bullets berrys thick plated worked them best but are same price as jacketed rmr work ok accuracy is ok stick with jhp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt1911 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Well, now that i think about it, I can't stick with JHP. I shoot mostly steel matches, and I don't want to buy X amount of bullets for steel and X amount of bullets for everything else. I'd rather consolidate and only have to worry about buying one kind of bullet and only have 1 load instead of 2... I'm a KISS fanatic, so I guess plated it is... RMR? Berry's? Rainier? TBW? Amat Victoria Curam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr88 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Precision Delta is 8.9 cents/1000 delivered. About the lowest you can spend on a 124 grain JHP. You can save as much as 3 cents going with coated. The SNS 125 RN is very good. Plated is not an ideal choice. They do not group well at major power. Makes no sense when you can get plated for less than JHP? I agree with Sarge and Gamil. The Precision I shot were 185 grain in Limited. They were easy to load,soft shooting, ran well and were very dirty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBomber Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Some of this is going to depend on what your gun likes. I prefer MG CMJ bullets, but I have shot several brands of plated bullets with no issues at all. Even back in the day at the old power factor of 175, which meant about 180. Again, it may depend on your guns barrel. Most bullet manufacturers will give/sell samples for you to try out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I don't want to buy X amount of bullets for steel and X amount of bullets for everything else. RMR? Berry's? Rainier? TBW? I prefer to use two different bullets for different loads - makes it easier to visually identify if it is a minor or major load. I wouldn't use any of the bullets listed above for 9mm Major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Hello: I am using Acme and Montana Gold right now in 9mm major. The JHP 115's are a little more accurate than the Acme 115's at 25 yards. I have used Precision moly's in the past and they work well also. A little more smoke than the new coated bullets. I didn't worry about the coating buildup in the barrel since it comes out after shooting 10-15 MG JHP bullets. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Well, now that i think about it, I can't stick with JHP. I shoot mostly steel matches, and I don't want to buy X amount of bullets for steel and X amount of bullets for everything else. I'd rather consolidate and only have to worry about buying one kind of bullet and only have 1 load instead of 2... I'm a KISS fanatic, so I guess plated it is... RMR? Berry's? Rainier? TBW? Amat Victoria Curam Why can't you use JHP for steel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) The conventional wisdom is it is more dangerous to shoot JHPs on steel. You certainly see expanded, separated jackets embedded in the wood at our range, but that may not be exclusively from shooting steel. At any rate, our management went off the deep end and banned any jacket bullet for steel, not just JHPs. They also do not allow plated, because of the difficulty in telling plated and jacketed apart. I completely disagree with the notion that plated bullets are inaccurate. I'm sure they can be in some barrels, but not in mine. I have the most experience with plated in 40sw. For Open, I shoot Rainier 135gr @ 1270fps and Rainier 155gr @ 1110fps. Both will shoot into one hole at 15 yards. For weights 155 and up for Limited Major, Rainiers are more accurate than the Berrys and Xtremes I've used, and more accurate than any of the coated bullets. The Rainiers do not foul the barrel, don't smoke and don't mess up the comp. There are zero lead deposits in the comp, only powder residue. Edited April 14, 2016 by zzt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 The conventional wisdom is it is more dangerous to shoot JHPs on steel. You certainly see expanded, separated jackets embedded in the wood at our range, but that may not be exclusively from shooting steel. At any rate, our management went off the deep end and banned any jacket bullet for steel, not just JHPs. They also do not allow plated, because of the difficulty in telling plated and jacketed apart. I completely disagree with the notion that plated bullets are inaccurate. I'm sure they can be in some barrels, but not in mine. I have the most experience with plated in 40sw. For Open, I shoot Rainier 135gr @ 1270fps and Rainier 155gr @ 1110fps. Both will shoot into one hole at 15 yards. For weights 155 and up for Limited Major, Rainiers are more accurate than the Berrys and Xtremes I've used, and more accurate than any of the coated bullets. The Rainiers do not foul the barrel, don't smoke and don't mess up the comp. There are zero lead deposits in the comp, only powder residue. Never heard that "conventional wisdom" before. 95% of the open shooters I know use HP's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Agreed. At least 95%... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Well, our CRO and I both think this is a stupid rule, since we each witness lots and lots of jacketed bullets shot at steel at each USPSA match with no incidents or injuries. We determined to try to change the Exec Com's mind. He did an extensive search and found nothing that recommended against jacketed for steel, but did find several articles recommending against JHPs for steel. I didn't read them, so I can't comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM83 Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Hello: I am using Acme and Montana Gold right now in 9mm major. The JHP 115's are a little more accurate than the Acme 115's at 25 yards. I have used Precision moly's in the past and they work well also. A little more smoke than the new coated bullets. I didn't worry about the coating buildup in the barrel since it comes out after shooting 10-15 MG JHP bullets. Thanks, Eric Are you getting any leading in the comp or barrel with the Acme 115s? I am assuming they are loaded to major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk18 Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I use IBJ 124 "doubles" for my practice loads, they're way cheap. Precision Delta 124 JHP for match ammo, those things run extremely smooth out of every open gun I've tried them in. (Akai, SV, Limcat, STI) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 As long as your plated bullets are of the Heavy Plated type you can push them to major power factor speeds with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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