Flexmoney Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 5 National Title in one year! (?) (Single Stack, Revolver, Production, Open and Limited) Can it be done? The opportunity is there this year. A handful of guys could do it. Nils is a Revolver GM, a stud with a Production gun, has won Single-Stack and is a monster with a Limited gun. Can he shoot Open too? TGO...is HOT on Revo right now. He is the TGO. Could be tough to get past all of the top 5 or so current Open gunners (specialists)? Bob is a determined work horse. If he prioritized the goal...man! Dave... somebody get him on the wheel. He already is a force in all the other divisions. What about the open gunners? Max nearly won Production on his first real try (about a bullet out). Chris...I know his dad has a wheelie. What about Travis. Blake or TJ? What about ______? Heck, maybe we ought to offer up a bounty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Not gonna happen anytime soon...for a lot of reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 Not gonna happen anytime soon...for a lot of reasons You don't think it sounds easy? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 What about Eric? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 If anyone has a shot, it would be Nils, provided he won his division at MG Nationals too (maybe a different 5, but still 5). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 What about Eric? My money would be here.. except for maybe the Revo part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 What about substituting L10 for Open? I know that would eliminate the Open guys, but probably make it more likely for the iron sight specialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrVvrroomm Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 What about Eric? ^^^this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old506 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 It would be nice to see a company put a "bounty" on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I don't think that the "Top Dogs" would be willing to sacrifice the remaining non-Nationals major matches for practice in order to be in top shape for all of the different divisions. From looking at recent years major match attendance the only shooters who have the skills, plus do not attend a metric crap ton of other major matches through the rest of the year, would be Nils or TGO. I don't know Nils personally but seeing stories of him having to borrow guns and or equipment in order to even participate in some matches (Like the SS Nationals) it makes me think that his reduced major match participation level is probably due to budget constraints more than anything. I may be totally wrong, but that is my quick assessment of the situation. TGO on the other hand has the time, money, and experience to excel in whatever division he chooses to participate in. But realistically, TGO has already proven that he is a MONSTER competitor in whatever division he chooses to shoot. What else does he have to prove to himself or others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Sounds like an opportunity for S&W, they would be the only Manufacturer who actually produces all 5 platforms. Or at least close since they discontinued the 5" 625. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beltjones Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 But realistically, TGO has already proven that he is a MONSTER competitor in whatever division he chooses to shoot. What else does he have to prove to himself or others? To your point, obviously he has nothing left to prove to you, me, or anyone else. He's TGO, for goodness' sake. However, you don't amass his record of wins without wanting to win for a host of reasons other than having something to prove. I don't know the man, but I would go out on a limb and say he has a competitive side and he likes to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzYooper Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Nils can shoot open and would have a chance at winning Nationals, especially since some really good shooters have moved out of Open. He might need to warm up a bit on an open gun to get National Champion. After Area 2 he came by our stage to take pictures, chat and thank us for working the match. I let him run the stage with my open gun and him time was around 3rd or forth best we had seen in the match. We did not record or remember the hits so it would be difficult to know exactly where he placed, but he was very smooth. And this was with gun he had never shot before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 So I wonder what TGO, Nils, and Sara were doing on Friday before the WSSSC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGO Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 So I wonder what TGO, Nils, and Sara were doing on Friday before the WSSSC? Nils I don't know, but Sara and I were shooting the Western States Revolver Challenge!! We both have visions of revolving grandeur in our minds ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Talk about an impressive thing to accomplish. Just another awe inspiring feat to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 What if a competitor could win a million dollars if he could take all 5 national titles in the same year! Does that sound crazy? Actually, it's not crazy at all. USPSA should check to see what the underwriters at Lloyd's at London would charge for a premium on a policy that would insure a million dollar prize for such a feat. (This would be similar to when they insure against a contestant sinking a hole-in-one at a charity golf tournament or a radio show caller making a half-court basketball shot during half-time.) It might turn out to be surprisingly affordable, and talk about stirring up interest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 What if a competitor could win a million dollars if he could take all 5 national titles in the same year! Does that sound crazy? Actually, it's not crazy at all. USPSA should check to see what the underwriters at Lloyd's at London would charge for a premium on a policy that would insure a million dollar prize for such a feat. (This would be similar to when they insure against a contestant sinking a hole-in-one at a charity golf tournament or a radio show caller making a half-court basketball shot during half-time.) It might turn out to be surprisingly affordable, and talk about stirring up interest! For a cool million, people would put the time, money and effort into it. No doubt.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 What if a competitor could win a million dollars if he could take all 5 national titles in the same year! Does that sound crazy? Actually, it's not crazy at all. USPSA should check to see what the underwriters at Lloyd's at London would charge for a premium on a policy that would insure a million dollar prize for such a feat. (This would be similar to when they insure against a contestant sinking a hole-in-one at a charity golf tournament or a radio show caller making a half-court basketball shot during half-time.) It might turn out to be surprisingly affordable, and talk about stirring up interest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZGunut Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Nils is the only one who can do it this calendar year. He can definitely win Single Stack, Lmited, Production and Revo. I personally believe he can win open with his limited gun and a big stick. I also believe that the talent pool in open is dwindling and a great iron sight shooter can always bet a great open shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Nils is the only one who can do it this calendar year. He can definitely win Single Stack, Lmited, Production and Revo. I personally believe he can win open with his limited gun and a big stick. I also believe that the talent pool in open is dwindling and a great iron sight shooter can always bet a great open shooter. That is an interesting succession of strong statements---not necessarily supported by data. Nils is very very good, no doubt---but saying he can win Production without any comparison data is a little unlikely. Similarly for Revolver division. (Meaning, no comparison data versus prior national-level competitors in that division. Nils probably rocks at local matches against very good shooters. However, what are his scores like compared to Griffin and Miculek? What are his scores like compared to Sevigny and Stoeger?) And saying that _anyone_ could win Open using an iron-sighted gun and a big stick is----an interesting statement. Of course, the statement "a great iron sight shooter can always bet [sic] a great open shooter" hasn't actually been proven in any way in any large match that I know of... Any examples of that last? I'm not saying that Nils couldn't do it. (Thought I will say that personally, I doubt it could be done this year by anyone outside of Grauffel, and that is ONLY if he suddenly practiced a ton with revolver, and even then would still be highly unlikely.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 With 1 Million dollars on the line I think that would introduce some unwanted activities. Shooters and Non-Shooters already go ape shit over small issues during a match when National titles are on the line. Can you even imagine the drama when 1 Million is on the line? No thanks!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) With 1 Million dollars on the line I think that would introduce some unwanted activities. Shooters and Non-Shooters already go ape shit over small issues during a match when National titles are on the line. Can you even imagine the drama when 1 Million is on the line? No thanks!!!! True. I didn't look that deep onto it. But I agree you fully. Oh yea it 5 National titles, not world. Nothing against Eric, he is a machine when it come to shooting. Edited February 8, 2013 by a matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagi Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Nils is the only one who can do it this calendar year. He can definitely win Single Stack, Lmited, Production and Revo. I personally believe he can win open with his limited gun and a big stick. I also believe that the talent pool in open is dwindling and a great iron sight shooter can always bet a great open shooter. That is an interesting succession of strong statements---not necessarily supported by data. Nils is very very good, no doubt---but saying he can win Production without any comparison data is a little unlikely. Similarly for Revolver division. (Meaning, no comparison data versus prior national-level competitors in that division. Nils probably rocks at local matches against very good shooters. However, what are his scores like compared to Griffin and Miculek? What are his scores like compared to Sevigny and Stoeger?) And saying that _anyone_ could win Open using an iron-sighted gun and a big stick is----an interesting statement. Of course, the statement "a great iron sight shooter can always bet [sic] a great open shooter" hasn't actually been proven in any way in any large match that I know of... Any examples of that last? I'm not saying that Nils couldn't do it. (Thought I will say that personally, I doubt it could be done this year by anyone outside of Grauffel, and that is ONLY if he suddenly practiced a ton with revolver, and even then would still be highly unlikely.) Here is an old post here on benos regarding Nils on Production.... http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=50914 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Cool older post. Makes one think? I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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