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  1. Registering with a higher classification won't mean anything, because the stats person should be running a classification update prior to finalizing the results, and if you don't have a member number, you'll be listed as "U" class. If you aren't a member, you don't have a classification. @Glockster1, you said this: "Of course, if you enjoy having them disclosing all your personal information for the entire world to see on SCSA" Can you explain that? Where does this happen? What personal information is available? Regarding membership: While USPSA/SCSA gets money from my club every time I shoot a match, I prefer to also support the sports I participate in via memberships. I also like to shoot majors, because they are fun. People certainly CAN choose to continually shoot the sport without supporting the sport, but.....well. If you enjoy the sport, why not support the sport? (Someone shooting 60 matches a year, for example, certainly has an extra $25 lying around.)
  2. <off-topic> Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher was just beyond ridiculous.</off-topic>
  3. The human brain is really good at knowing where the center of a dot is, yes. However, the bigger the dot, the less good we are. In addition, we are good at it IF the circle is actually a circle as opposed to something lopsided or with flares. If it has those (which, for most people, it does, especially as we get older), then finding the center is more difficult. A small, perfectly round dot is going to allow to a higher level of precision (especially at speed) than a larger one. Regarding how much the dot covers----your measurements and calculations are perfectly correct. And yet....for most people, if you have an 8MOA dot and are looking at the head of a 25-yard target, the dot pretty much covers the whole head. The dot SHOULD only be 2" in diameter. But....it isn't. So....the discussion about the dot size really does seem relevant. (Similarly easy way to look at it: a 3 MOA dot for rifles at 100 yards should only cover 3" of the target, roughly. And yet, when you look at the target, it covers a lot more than that.) For the most part, what seems to be true is that larger dots get washed out less, and that ends up being more important than sharper functional precision, as larger dots are mostly-precise-enough in the majority of people's hands.
  4. I can't quote Sarge correctly because he put his answers in my quote. Anywhere, here's what he said: "BUT FOR AVERAGE HEIGHT SHOOTERS WHO ARE NOT 15 YEARS OLD THIS OFTEN REQUIRES GETTING ON THE GROUND THE LAST STEP SINCE GETTING UP ON THE CLOCKS IS A DEAL BREAKER. THAT SIGNIFICANTLY DISADVANTAGES THEM COMPARED TO A KID OR SHORT FIT SHOOTER." "Can't do it" and "it is harder because you aren't fit" are two separate things. Everyone can drop to the ground and get up. (It might take more work for older people, but we can still do it.) Short people can't magically become taller. The two cases aren't remotely the same. "I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE CASE. SHE STOOD ON THE FAULT LINE. PERIOD. IF SHE IS GOOD ENOUGH TO FINISH THAT WELL SHE IS FULLY CAPABLE OF STANDING ON A FAULT LINE. HELL, EVEN I CAN STAND ON A FAULT LINE." You are using a "well, since she's good, she can deal with it" argument? That's a little different. "Hey, since you are so good, we'll just make this part harder for you. No complaining, you gamer." That's not how it works. "I can stand on a fault line" doesn't have anything to do with the situation at hand. Fixing the stage so this wouldn't be a problem would have been easy enough to do in the first place. As someone said, having a step there available to all would have been a simple fix. We even have a rule about it: 2.1.6 Obstacles – Natural or created obstacles in a course of fire should reasonably allow for variations in competitors’ height and physical build and should be constructed to provide reasonable safety for all competitors, Match Officials and spectators. Pretty sure that "hey, you, since you are good we'll just make you run to the front and balance on the fault lines like no one else has to do because you are short" doesn't follow that rule.
  5. Probably because no matter how tall you are, you can reach the ground. Short people can't magically become taller. If a barrier that people have to shoot over requires short people (but not anyone other than really short people) to come completely up to it and balance on a fault line so that they can barely reach and shoot the targets, that's a bad stage prop and design. And yes, our sport does allow for accommodations given that---though it is generally a good idea for the RM to think about those in advance, and have clearly (and easily) defined criteria for usage of such accommodations. Or better yet, put a wide step up there in the first place, that doesn't require balancing, that everyone can use. Tall people don't have to use it, short people can use it but don't have to worry about balance problems. Claiming "gamer" and equating that to "attempting to gain an advantage" in a derogatory manner not only doesn't fit this situation and shooter, but ignores the fact that our sport recognizes that accommodations sometimes need to be made.
  6. Based on the stuff in bold, your club is run very differently from many. Also based on that, I agree that you shouldn't renew your RO certification or USPSA membership---if you don't like the rules and the way the sport is being run, and you aren't going to work to change those rules, and you aren't going to enforce those rules at official USPSA matches, you should indeed make it so you don't have to worry about any of those things---nor screw up other people because you don't follow the rules. At my club, we make sure we play by the rules, so that everyone is equal under those rules. If someone's equipment doesn't match their division, we talk to them to see if we can get it fixed and they can stay in that division. If it can't be fixed, they shoot in Open and have a perfectly good time doing so, and we talk to them about what they need to change to fix it for the next match. Unsurprisingly, this isn't ever a problem. Our folks don't get in trouble when they go to Level II and up matches, because they are used to simply participating in a match that runs according to the rules, whether that is in the areas of equipment, procedures, or scoring. It isn't hard to simply follow the rules, and communicating clearly with all competitors about the rules is a nice, simple, clear way to forstall problems. If you see an equipment issue, talk to them about it, and see if you can fix it. If you can't, shooting Open isn't the end of the world. And you can have a discussion about how to fix it for their next match.
  7. In USPSA, I can draw, aim at a spot on the berm where no target is, and take a shot that is nowhere near a target, and it isn't an AD. I can shoot at targets and miss them--and that isn't an AD. I can fire a shot between targets (literally ADing) while transitioning between targets, and as long as that shot goes into the berm, it isn't a DQ even though it is an AD. Not all ADs are DQs. Shooting at a target and simply missing definitely isn't going to be a DQ. Now, as people have said---maybe there is a local range rule (properly spelled out in the WSB for that stage, with that information available to all competitors prior to shooting the stage) making misses in the described situation a DQ offense. But the IPSC rules themselves don't say that.
  8. As people have pointed out, that isn't an IPSC rule. (I am amused by the idea that people are somehow to be forced to aim for every shot magically by government fiat, I'll note. Good luck with that.) As for "slow" -- again, ROs are actually required to state rules for their DQ. If the statement is "this is unsafe gun handling because he missed while shooting slowly," feel free to support that with a rule. When you can't, feel free to let it go.
  9. And yet, "weird point shooting" is not a DQ-able offense. And they weren't ADs, because there wouldn't be two shots right next to the target (as described) if they were ADs. (And I'll note that I've seen PLENTY of people miss close targets, including nationally-ranked GMs.) You said you'd DQ the guy for unsafe gun handing. I was just asking your criteria, which you can't seem to provide. However, as you don't seem to be an RO, that makes sense---ROs know they are required to actually have a rule to cite to uphold their DQ call. They can't go on whether or not something "doesn't seem right" or whatever. @ard212, it sounds like you have made a good choice---talk to the RM, find out what the problem specifically was, and go from there. IPSC/USPSA is a ton of fun, don't let one bad instance ruin it for you!
  10. For the sake of my curiosity, when you are running shooters, at what point do you go from "unsafe gun handling" to "poor gun handling" and stop DQing them? What criteria do you use?
  11. But that doesn't say you still can't get one procedural for not following. There were no extra or missing shots The problem with that way of thinking is that technically speaking, almost any error that receives a procedural would then ALSO get a procedural for not following the WSB. Example: Most WSBs include some version of "engage all targets as they become visible from within the fault lines." Because of that, if you take a shot while faulting the line, you get the foot fault procedural.....should you ALSO get a procedural for failing to follow the WSB? You specifically did something that the WSB said not to do.
  12. Questions from two people: "1) If a competitor asks what cadence the RO will be using, what should the RO answer? 2) ... can (should?) the RO announce what the cadence will be? 3) While the RO "may" change cadence between competitors, should they? 4) Can the competitor ask for a cadence, something like- can you count to 1 thousand 2 before beeping?" IMO: 1) You'll find out on the first beep. 2) No 3) Yes 4) Ask, yes. Get it? No. The competitor doesn't get to choose the cadence. The shooter doesn't get to know the cadence on the first beep, other than it will be within 1-4 seconds. The shooter will know that successive beeps will be similar in time to the first beep. The shooter should NOT get to expect that they will know the cadence based on watching the previous competitor. That way everyone starts the first beep the same way (knowing it will be within 1-4 seconds but it isn't up to the competitor) and knowing that the rest of the start signals should be roughly similar to the first one. There isn't a specific rule delineating these requirements, however.
  13. In both of those cases people can bag, put in cart, or use a berm. The same situations apply for both sports. So....what are the problems again? Edited to add the following: Looking at what you originally wrote, you seem to be making two complaints: 1) "Yet USPSA/IPSC shooters lament that our carbines should be cased and flagged and using a procedure that requires pointing at a side berm." 2) "The other option we use in SC, is an unflagging carbine in a case. Shooter steps into shooters box and upon make ready command, removes the carbine without a flag, pointing downrange, and makes ready. Reverse is done upon the show clear command. Range is clear when bag is zipped up. Again, USPSA/IPSC shooters get confused with between USPSA and SCSA rules." We already know that #2 is incorrect, and the USPSA and SCSA rules match on that one. Flags are required. So no actual complaint. But for #1.....I'm still not sure of the problem. Like I said, USPSA and SCSA have the same set of allowed things here----bag/cart at shooting box, or bag/cart at berm. Both are legal and allowed. It is certainly true that many people who shoot a lot think that bag/cart at the berm is FASTER in terms of getting making ready before the stage and clearing the range after the stage, so of course people are going to have opinions on what they'd PREFER people to do. But....are people saying "Hey, we'd prefer you to do it THIS way because it is faster" an actual problem somehow?
  14. Well, there's one of your problems. In SCSA, it IS necessary for your carbine (whether a PCC or a rimfire rifle) to be flagged whether in a bag OR in a cart. SCSA Rules, 1.1: Semi-autos must have chamber and magazine well empty. Rimfire rifles and PCC must have chamber and magazine well empty and bolt closed on a flag and be cased or secured in a cart. Chamber/magwell empty AND bolt closed on a flag AND case or in a cart. So.....that may be why some people are telling you that you need to flag your carbines while in bags. As for using a berm---it isn't required by the rules, it is merely an option. If some matches would prefer you to use that option, that's up to them, and they can state their preference.
  15. The 2020 Great Plains Steel Challenge Championship will be held Saturday April 25th and Sunday April 26th at the Eastern Nebraska Gun Club near Louisville, NE. As a Level II match, it'll have all eight official Steel Challenge stages, and you can register to shoot up to 6 divisions in the match. Cost per division: $25. Payment required at registration, and you'll be able to squad immediately after registration/payment. There will be four shooting blocks (Sat morning, Sat afternoon, Sun morning, and Sun afternoon), and competitors will shoot all eight stages in one block, so you have choices as to when you want to shoot. Competitors may shoot up to two divisions per block. Match website for information: https://enps.us/matches/major-matches/great-plains-steel-challenge-championship Registration link on Practiscore: https://practiscore.com/2020-great-plains-steel-challenge-championship/register This is our fifth year to hold the match, and we are hoping to continue making it bigger and better. Last year we had 289 scored entries, and this year we'd like to push that over 300! If anyone has questions, feel free to email us at: enpsinfo@gmail.com
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