drysideshooter Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 So the emperor has spoken and is urging Congress to implement a ban on magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds? I am assuming that even if they are able to get anything to pass it won't mean we have to turn in our current mags that exceed that limit. Does that potentially mean that down the road we won't be able to buy higher capacity mags? What will happen to the open division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.roberts Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 If mag restrictions are put in place it'd probably be a lot like Open division in Canada i.e. more reloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 We have no way of knowing without knowing what the ban will ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 If it ever happens, let's just hope it is from whatever date forward. So as long as you have "pre-ban" magazines, you can shoot hicap divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgtsvi Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 It wil be like the last ban. Those with grandfathered mags will be fine but new ones will be hard to come by. It definitely won't help increase the number of new competitors in Limited or Open but will boost the production division. It will really harm the growth of new shooters in multi gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigsteffek Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 On yahoo it say that mags currently on the shelves and already owned will be grandfathered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 That's because of the Takings Clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 It didnt seem to change much during the last ban. Mags are mags and replacement parts are parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 In NY right now I think open and limited are going to be basically dead divisions and SS and revolver with pop back up. Who is going to shoot open or limited with 7 round mags. Heck it might give some of the more seasoned shooters a reason to dust off their old ss open guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I've cleaned a few post from here. Lets stay on track with what he asked and not stray into future laws or politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraig Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 In New York we have one year to sell our high capcity mags! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Here in Canada (Australia is the same) we are already running with 10 round only open guns (and no we cannot own "grandfathered" mags, it's 10 or nothing). Basically the only thing that changes is you carry more mags and reload more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 well i did notice the canucks pulling out a sleeve of some type from the mags and using the full mag at a match a few years ago,and after the match put the 10 rnd sleeve back in.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) There is a clause in the New York gun control bill that just passed that would allow currently possessed 10 round mags to be loaded to capacity (10 ROUNDS) for NRA or IHMSA sanctioned competition. NRA sanction is the norm in NYS. This obviously doesn't help open or limited division shooters but production, single stack, and limited 10 will survive as will IDPA. The 7 round loaded in the mag only provision relates to carrying the gun on your person or for when the gun is in the home ( confusing no doubt) but thankfully competitive shooting isn't limited to 7 in a mag. All mags that hold more than 10 rounds are banned and we have a year to sell them out of state or turn them in. Court cases are pending.... Until then....keep shooting USPSA ! * 7-f. Possession and use of a magazine, belt, feed strip or similar device, that contains more than seven rounds of ammunition, but that does not have a capacity of or can readily be restored or converted to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition, at an indoor or outdoor firing range located in or on premises owned or occupied by a duly incorporated organization organized for conservation purposes or to foster proficiency in arms; at an indoor or outdoor firing range for the purpose of firing a rifle or shotgun; at a collegiate, olympic or target shooting competition under the auspices of or approved by the national rifle association; or at an organized match sanctioned by the International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association. Edited January 16, 2013 by Chuck D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothguy Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Just curious about a 627 8 shot for ICORE. Never thought of a revolver as high capacity till now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBuzzard Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Where would I buy 10 round magazines for an STI open gun? I dont think some sort of removeable plug thingy would acceptable should this restiction come to pass. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvinc78 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I have a question In the states where u can only have 10 rounds? Do u still use 140mm tubes the reason I ask is I just got a new open gun and 140mm mags with Dawson +1 pads and they just fit up in there? I'm not sure 126mm would fit... Maybe I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) You still basically killed limited open and 3 gun in that area i don't see many here selling their hicaps to buy 10 rounds to shoot 10 round open with a 3500+dollar gun or anyone outside the area shooting a 3 gun match with 10 round mags. The tubes you use are 126 tubes I don't think they will fit with an extended base pad either. The only way I could see one legally modified is to drill and weld a bar across limiting the capacity Edited January 16, 2013 by EkuJustice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrooney Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I don't think they will get it passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike41 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 There is no ban until such gets passed. Everywhere but NY there is only the proposal from Obama which if we work hard and write our congress and senators it should not pass. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Where would I buy 10 round magazines for an STI open gun? I dont think some sort of removeable plug thingy would acceptable should this restiction come to pass. BB I've got a 10 round STI 38super mag I'll sell ya.... Can't be made to hold more... Or better yet, I'll trade for a big stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer1 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Good point I guess the 627 or a 617 would be illegal in NY or is it only detachable mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonBullit Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) ... Everywhere but NY there is only the proposal from Obama... Mike Not completely accurate Mike, in MA the governor proposed legislation the other day with the same mag limits as NY with no grandfathering. We at least have a little time to fight for our rights but make no mistake that the NY law is now the template; at least at the state level. Keep a close eye on your state and make sure nothing is snuck in. 126mm 10rnd mags are on backorder everywhere at the moment :-/...I'll still shoot open with 10s but it won't be the same [Edit of original quote for emphasis now that I'm not posting from my phone] Edited January 18, 2013 by BostonBullit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The NY laws only effect semi-autos. The 8 round revos are ok. The NRA is now engaged legally. I believe we will get 10 round mags back but hi-caps will be a big stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40S&W Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Well, when any New Yorkers want to sell some 140mm tuned 9/38 & 40 S&W mags let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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