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  1. A much better idea would be to have him come back, run the match and double the numbers again.
  2. I think that would be a good place to start. I used that 5.5 gr Power Pistol load in my 9mm Target Master for PPC and it worked well. It looks like the max 9mm loads are in the 32000 psi range and the 38 super max loads are in the 34000 psi range so using the max 9mm data should be safe. http://www.bullseyepistol.com/reloads.htm http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/powderlist.aspx?type=1&powderid=8&cartridge=23 I have used Power Pistol in a Bianchi revolver and it works the comp well. The downside is more perceived recoil, especially shooting in an indoor range due to it's flashy nature.
  3. Congratulations, always enjoy reading your progress.
  4. Over the years I wonder how many people Warren has helped at matches with his tool kit.
  5. +1 K-frame Model 10 Model 12 Model 13 Model 14 Model 15 Model 17 Model 19 Model 617 Model 64 Model 65 Model 66 Model 67 L-frame Model 581 Model 586 Model 619 Model 620 Model 646 Model 681 Model 686 http://www.guns.com/review/gun-review-smith-wesson-model-65-4-production-outdated/
  6. Stevenb, for Bianchi those look perfect.
  7. http://4wheelguns.com/KLFrameGrips.html
  8. http://randirogersshooting.com/contact/
  9. http://www.bayoubullets.net/ Bayou has a 124 RN in .355, .356 or .357 for $236 (3500 ct.).
  10. Check to see if the firing pin spring is broken. It can break in half and partially collapse giving some return, but with increased resistance. For all gun lube inside and out I use mobile 1 synthetic oil.
  11. I would want to find a local dealer or gun show so I could look it over before buying.
  12. Just for approximate cost examples using a 125 gr bullet, XTP's are about .19 cents per bullet, Rainier plated are .11 cents and Bayou coated are .06 cents. I have never been able to get acceptable accuracy from plated bullets so I wouldn't buy them for that reason. Bayou coated bullets are relatively inexpensive, clean and give acceptable accuracy for USPSA.
  13. I think the round butt frame design is just more versatile. The grip can be changed depending on the application, CCW (round butt) or hunting/competition (square butt). The handling quality is subjective depending on what you like and the application.
  14. Definitely a concern when working up a load. I think the limiting factor would be the frame. Basically trying to make a 940 with a light weight frame. The 340 has had scandium added to the aluminum frame for strength. Maybe just a lot easier and safer to get the LCR in 9mm. It's a little heavier but better sights, grip and trigger.
  15. I have seen these on the shelf and thought they were kind of gimmicky, but looking at the info I think I'll get some and see how they shoot.
  16. Some good Long Colt loads in this thread using 150 gr round nose profile bullets. With a short barreled, 14 oz., 38 you are not going to, or want to, be able to get the velocities required for reliable real world expansion using a light hollow point bullet. The 150 gr round nose will more closely mimic the heavy bullet, fast powder efficiency of the wadcutters but load easier. Here again using more of a competition load for self defense but I think you should be able to find a good balanced load or sweet spot. I think the snub 38 has many of the same issues as the .380. Due to the relatively low velocities you can't get reliable expansion from a light HP and if there is any it downgrades penetration. Due to expansion, penetration and feeding issues with the .380 many just carry hardball. An interesting solution is the Lehigh Defense Extreme Penetrator that doesn't rely on any expansion.
  17. I don't think any of the 38 snubbie loads should be considered Thor's hammer or a man stopper. When you look at the clothing numbers, which are a more realistic scenario, the Win 110 +P+ load gives 11'' of penetration at about .49 expansion with 107 PF. The friggin' wadcutters give about 15'' of penetration at .38 expansion with only 97 PF. The friggin' wadcutter, designed for target use, gives better peformance at a lesser power factor. I'm curious which load would be more accurate and pleasant to shoot. Looking at the performance of the friggin' wadcutter, I think the optimal 38 snubbie defense load would be something more like the full charge 148 wadcutter at about 800 fps, 118 to 120 PF. Maintaining point of aim accuracy with a little more power, but still mild in the lighter snubbie. I think the old school guys really had something with the 158 +P SWHP FBI load. It has really good performance and doesn't rely on any unreliable expansion at 38 special velocities. The 148 full charge wadcutter can give almost equal performance with a milder load. The FBI standard is at least 12'' of penetration which you might not like, but I don't think that it is an unreasonable expectation for a self defense round. The Winchester 110 +P+ meets the same penetration standards as a 25 acp hardball.
  18. http://www.grantcunningham.com/2011/11/ed-harris-revisiting-the-full-charge-wadcutter/ This is a good article on the full charge wadcutter (148 HBWC, 3.2 gr of Bullseye). When I get some time I'm going to load some and see how they shoot.
  19. If you look at lots of other tests where clothing is used, expansion from a short barreled .38 is unreliable at best. The wadcutters used are a standard target load but still expand to almost .40 cal and have better penetration. I'm thinking that the performance is due to relatively smaller charges of faster powders like bullseye or 231, in combination with the case filling softer lead bullet. You get a more efficient powder burn from the short barrel and some more reliable expansion from the softer lead bullet.
  20. http://www.brassfetcher.com/Ballistic Gelatin Tests/38 Special 10 Percent Ballistic Gelatin.html Look at the 2'' barrel data from even the +P loads and compare that to performance of the wadcutter. Not much expansion from the 148 wadcutter, penetration is about 15 inches which is pretty close to only two of the top +P loads (129 +P Hydrashock) (158 +P LHP). The lighter faster HP loads expanded well in bare gelatin but lacked penetration. In other denim tests I have seen the lighter HP loads fill with denim so the bullet doesn't expand and acts as a FMJ with greater penetration. I guess untill just reciently I would not have considered the wadcutter for self defense. I think the snub revolvers are an obvious compromise and looking at the data is interesting. The 148 wadcutter gives some of the best penetration with greater accuracy. Not much seems to be gained by going to a +P load in a snub nose, except making the gun harder to shoot.
  21. Since reading the previous thread on the best snubbie to buy, I realized I could not remember the last time I shot mine. I have an old, all metal, model 60 with a hammer mounted firing pin. The hammer is bobbed and the fixed sight painted orange. Through the years I have collected lots of different 38 loads, currently I have it loaded with 158 +P SWHP even though it's not rated for +P ammo. At about 7 yrds I shot a variety of different loads. I noticed all the high dollar self defense loads, 110-135 gr bullet weight, grouped low with 4 to 6 inch groups. It doesn't seem like my 1.8 inch barrel stabilizes the lighter bullets well. The heavier bullets 148-158gr., all shot close to point of aim with half the group size of the lighter bullets. The +P loads are horrible to shoot and really took a toll on my thumb. The best load I found were some of my old PPC loads (Zero 148gr. HBWC, 3.2 gr 231). I really have to squint just right to see the sight, but they hit right to point of aim. Much more comfortable and accurate to shoot small groups well. Looking a power factor and penetration it appears to be about the same as a FMJ .380. Just curious what others are shooting from there fixed sighted J frames or LCP's and what kind of accuracy, where they hit in relation the the sight ect.
  22. toothguy

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    Just called PV talked to the usual gal and she said that they are aware of the problem and the new site is not finished. She said even though it might say something is available it still might not be. I would probably call in your order for awhile just to make sure.
  23. Yes, it's the official program. It's the opportunity to introduce to everyone a "new" requirement. Hard to understand why that requirement is not clarified, so Production shooters could make sure they are in compliance.
  24. From the official 2017 program. "New for 2017 All Production pistols will now be required to pass the “Production Box” test. Firearm and magazine must fit completely within the box and the lid must close completely without force, to pass inspection." I'm thinking that the magazine will need to be inserted but no indication of which size box.
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