BritinUSA Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Thanks! Using the Deltapoint or JPoint? DeltaPoint (write up on what I did for Prod/Optics is here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I will probably just get the slide on my Shadow milled to accommodate the DP2 as once I make the move to PO I would not plan to go back & shoot irons. I've already headed down that slippery slope by switching to open rimfire & open centerfire for Steel Challenge & have no plans to shoot irons there ... PO would save me from having to move to Open and deal with major power et al ... Exactly the same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Thanks! Using the Deltapoint or JPoint? DeltaPoint (write up on what I did for Prod/Optics is here) Thanks very much.. nice write up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmca Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Been a while since I've read this thread. Did someone hear something about the BOD and the PO Division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Crickets..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Antichrome Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Less than 100 people participated in the latest poll. (With the majority voting against) Its a non-issue. Hence, the crickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgt Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I thought discussion was done and waiting for BOD to say something one way or another on the proposal submitted to them - did that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 There was a vote last weekend. We are waiting for the minutes to be posted so we can find out what the results of the vote were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmca Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Less than 100 people participated in the latest poll. (With the majority voting against) Its a non-issue. Hence, the crickets. What poll?????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The poll was on the USPSA Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garyg19 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 USPSA has a forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I've tried several times to get on the forum and haven't made it yet. Seems strange that it is that difficult considering it is supposed to be a forum for members. I'd think it's probably lucky that even 100 or so responded, one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I've tried several times to get on the forum and haven't made it yet. Seems strange that it is that difficult considering it is supposed to be a forum for members. I'd think it's probably lucky that even 100 or so responded, one way or the other. I've never had any trouble reaching the USPSA forums. Go to uspsa.org, log in, go to Member Support, click on USPSA forums. That's it. (You might have to add two one-digit numbers.) But that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCOShooter Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I kinda hope this gets approved. I think it will be a blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 USPSA has a forum? It requires a Secret Handshake.. your not missing much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gose Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 With S&W releasing a ported MP9, will that be allowed to play in production optics as well? http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_834561_-1_757896_757896_757896_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y You'd be pretty handicapped with that in Open, so it would probably fit better in Production Optics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 No, the plan for PO as presented is to make no rule changes to the division except for allowing the mounting on the slide of an optical sight. As to what the actual rules would be if the division gets approved ... who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadeslade Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I wouldn't count on anything being released until after Nationals, because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 With S&W releasing a ported MP9, will that be allowed to play in production optics as well? http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_834561_-1_757896_757896_757896_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y You'd be pretty handicapped with that in Open, so it would probably fit better in Production Optics No way. That new gun falls squarely into open division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 With S&W releasing a ported MP9, will that be allowed to play in production optics as well?http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_834561_-1_757896_757896_757896_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y You'd be pretty handicapped with that in Open, so it would probably fit better in Production Optics No way. That new gun falls squarely into open division I agree, the porting would not pass the proposed PO rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gose Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 With S&W releasing a ported MP9, will that be allowed to play in production optics as well? http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_834561_-1_757896_757896_757896_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y You'd be pretty handicapped with that in Open, so it would probably fit better in Production Optics No way. That new gun falls squarely into open division Correct me if I'm wrong, but so does a gun with an optic on. This wasnt really if it would pass the proposed rules or not, since the rules are simply that, proposed, changing them would be easy... The same people that have problems with bad eyes, might also be starting to get joint issues and what not, so allowing for porting would allow them to still compete without having to spend the money on a full race gun. Also, one of the pretences of PO was that Optics are becoming so common that it would make sense to have it's own division. If the situation is getting to the same point with porting, why can't that be looked at? Both optics and porting are currently Open features and categorically rejecting one as being "too Open" while the other one is ok seems a little odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaycwebb Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 With S&W releasing a ported MP9, will that be allowed to play in production optics as well? http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_834561_-1_757896_757896_757896_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y You'd be pretty handicapped with that in Open, so it would probably fit better in Production Optics No way. That new gun falls squarely into open division Correct me if I'm wrong, but so does a gun with an optic on. This wasnt really if it would pass the proposed rules or not, since the rules are simply that, proposed, changing them would be easy... The same people that have problems with bad eyes, might also be starting to get joint issues and what not, so allowing for porting would allow them to still compete without having to spend the money on a full race gun. Also, one of the pretences of PO was that Optics are becoming so common that it would make sense to have it's own division. If the situation is getting to the same point with porting, why can't that be looked at? Both optics and porting are currently Open features and categorically rejecting one as being "too Open" while the other one is ok seems a little odd. A few people brought up an idea similar to yours ealier in the thread. "Guns with X modificiations are increasingly popular. Maybe we should propose a division that would support it directly." This idea wat shot down promtly by several people. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Both optics and porting are currently Open features and categorically rejecting one as being "too Open" while the other one is ok seems a little odd. Then just shoot Open minor. Since the gun has an optic and porting, it fits right in. Not so with just an optic on an already approved production gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The point of PO as propsed was not to see how many 'open-like' features we could get in a new division but simple to allow for an optic on an otherwise Production legal gun ...nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 The point of PO as propsed was not to see how many 'open-like' features we could get in a new division but simple to allow for an optic on an otherwise Production legal gun ...nothing more. Agreed. For the record I am against PO but if it does happen it should be just as it has been proposed. i.e. An otherwise legal production gun with a slide mounted optic on it. The new Ported Core from S&W in my opinion is a cheap way to shoot Open. I'm actually kind of afraid it's introduction might cloudy the waters on any proposed PO division. Guess how many people are going to buy this gun when they hear PO got approved. Probably quite a few. Remember, there are really only a few hundred of us regulars that are tuned in to nearly every aspect of what's going on in this game. There are literally thousands of local uspsa shooters that just don't follow all of this that closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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