Mrdwayne0405 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I found a deal on a bunch of Wolf Small Pistol Primers. I am not a fan of the bullets, but I know nothing about these primers. Should I consider buying them for reloading 40 S&W? I'm new to reloading, as in I'm loading my first rounds when my bullets come in. I already have my cases primed for my first loads, this is just for future use... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizzle Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I bought them for the same reason a while back and I have no complaints. They all go bang and seem to work great. I've used their small rifle magnum primers with equal results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee King Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I bought some when they were the only thing available a year or 2 ago. They have been completely unreliable. I was getting failure to fires on the rate of 1-2 per stage. Nice solid strikes. No bang. Extended firing pin etc. didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrdwayne0405 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) If I could get them in the ballpark of $150 or less for 10,000, would it be worth it? No shipping... local pickup. Edited February 1, 2012 by Mrdwayne0405 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsydlooknin75 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Wideners has them for 15 per k. So that's not a great price but ok. Sent from my PG06100 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I found a deal on a bunch of Wolf Small Pistol Primers. Should I consider buying them for reloading 40 S&W? A year ago, we had a giant thread on Wolf - bottom line is that they work in some guns and not in others:( They are close to 100% in my STI, but about 60% in my BHP. I bought a million of them (price:) and use them for practice rounds, not match rounds. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmw5142 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I don't have any problems with them as long as they are seated REALLY well. I have a failure to fire rate of about 1 in 20 with them in my lightly sprung Glock's since I started loading on a Hornady LNL. When I used to use a Lee turret which I think seated them much better, I had almost zero problems. With stock Glocks they're fine. My personal experience... I have had I think, two true duds in about 7000 of them. I shoot them in my 9mm single stacks (17lb hammer spring) and .40 Eagle loaded on the LNL with no problems. I have m2i extended firing pins in them though. I have a few thousand left and use them for practice. I bought 10K back when I couldn't get my normal primers. I might buy them again for practice if I could get them cheap enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assaulter Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Not reliable, but great for practice ammo. You should practice for malfunctions.....right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagi Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Not a single problem with them... Small rifle magnum may be too hard for someone but i have used them on my limited and single stack pistols....they all go bang... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I saw a shooter shoot 150 of them at a match last month with out a problem,,they all went bang,,what more do you want,??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfchorn Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I initially had some issues with them, and it turned out to be a seating issue. For whatever reason, they were very hard to seat correctly. It really required MUCH more effort to seat them than any other primer. Heck, when I got some CCI primers, they seated so smoothly I checked the first 20 rounds or so after the upstroke because it didn't even feel like a primer was there. The feeling was that different. Yes, I checked my press (650) to make sure there were not any issues. It also didn't matter which brass headstamp, either. When they were all I could get and used them in matches, I did get an extended firing pin and beefed up my mainspring by a pound or so to make sure I wouldn't have any issues. Now that other primers are available, I have set the Wolf aside simply because they are difficult to seat and it's easier to load with other primers. I'll save them for the next big primer shortage. Just my experience. Other may have different stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I had a lot of good ones, then they switched the cups. The ones I have leftover from that disaster are so unreliable that I won't give them away. I had a squib that hardly cleared the barrel. The only thing to blame is the primers. I have had no problems in large pistol, large rifle, or small rifle magnum. I do not and will not use the small pistol again unless they change the cup back to the former, softer, safer design. Fortunately I got a full refund. I use only name brand primers now and I keep enough in stock to last me for a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 And if you use a Vibra Prime, the packaging sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowrider Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I think they are the hardest primer out there. They work in my Caspian and AR (SRMs) just fine but they are a no go in my M&P. They also don't run as smoothly in the press and seem to require more seating pressure. I have to admit that I also got mine back when there wasn't anything else and the price is sure tempting. But as soon as they are gone I'm not buying anymore. I'm stockpiling Federals for the upcoming election year drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I've used them with good results. no FTFs. Chrono results were good. I've used both SR & SP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrdwayne0405 Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 So, basically, the general consensus is that they aren't the best. Mostly go bang... better for practice. Don't bet your life on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LINC Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 If I put 10 of them in a mag and shot, when I picked up the 5 off the ground that didnt fire the first time usually only 1 would not fire after the third try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwoods Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) They dont work well in M&P pistols. Not just mine, but others also. They work fine in my 1911s Not so well in my CZ75 with light springs and trigger. Edited February 2, 2012 by redwoods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boston Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I've only used small pistol and small rifle magnum, however, no problems with either. Work well in S&w 38 and 357 as well as 40 in glock and sig. Also work well in Marlin Carbine in 357 and JR carbine in 40 with glock magazines. The JR has a real light fireing pin strike and they seem to work just fine. I've loaded over 30,000 of them on a Dillon 650 with two they didn't fire the first time. Both were due to seating issues on my part. Sooooooooo, what the heck, good price since no haz mat or shipping. Use them for practice and don't worry about it. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOST Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 The older ( pre-2009) that were brass like in color seemed to be way softer which my Glocks liked . The silver colored small pistol primers now are much harder. I use them only on my 2011's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I got 5k a couple years ago,LP and shot 2k last yr without any issues..load on a 650.BUT I've had more issues with 4yr old,Winchester,that seems like the darker colored primers are out of spec and crush easy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 So, basically, the general consensus is that they aren't the best. Mostly go bang... better for practice. Don't bet your life on them. I read on another internet forum, so take it for what that's worth, that David Tubb used them and found that they produced a lower SD and better accuracy than any other brand of primer. Now that could be just internet folklore but I found that they delivered reliable results. I'd use them in match ammo without any worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) So, basically, the general consensus is that they aren't the best. Mostly go bang... better for practice. Don't bet your life on them. I read on another internet forum, so take it for what that's worth, that David Tubb used them and found that they produced a lower SD and better accuracy than any other brand of primer. Now that could be just internet folklore but I found that they delivered reliable results. I'd use them in match ammo without any worry. Interesting, I have chronoed loads with them 2 weeks ago, and am geting ready to chrono the same loads with magtech and winch primers, so I will have some data. But to answer the post, 10K of them bought when components were not available, I have used them all with 100% reliability in my S-I guns, but a friend shooting a Glock with a light striker spring had 10% not go bang on the first try, but did on the second. They have harder cups, but work in my guns. Edited February 3, 2012 by fastarget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trini Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I've been using the LP's with my SS and they have all worked. Also tried Tula's for 9 and 40 and they also worked great. When I find them at local GS I buy them. I use my WSP and WLP for area matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 They work perfectly in my 1911. Never ever got a fail to fire. The cup is hard though and you can feel it when you try to seat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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