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  1. I have to be honest. I'm not sure what I'd do If I was ROing and noticed a lack of mags on a competitor's belt before giving the MR command. My first thought would be to tell him he forgot his mags. But is that really fair to the other shooters he is competing against? Part of the game is the mental aspect and the equipment aspect. It kind of seems like a jerk move to keep quiet, but saying something opens you up to all kinds of accusations of favoritism and unfair treatment (you told him he didn't have his mags, but you didn't tell me I forgot to chamber a round/turn on my dot/unlock my holster). If I noticed his lack of mags after the MR command, I would not say anything. If the competitor noticed before the start signal, said he wasn't ready, and asked to ULSC, I would oblige. No harm, no foul. The rules support that. If a bystander told the competitor about his lack of mags after the MR command but before the start signal, I would probably give the shooter a choice: 1. Go ahead as-is, and when you run out of ammo, I'll score the stage as shot 2. ULSC, go get your mags, and I'll assess 1 procedural for receiving coaching (and a procedural to the person giving the coaching). If you notice after the start signal, you're pretty hosed. It's probably NOT going to be a stage win. Shoot until you're empty, then score as shot. Any of the more experienced ROs have a solution that keeps things fair for everyone while being as helpful as the rules allow?
  2. 8.6.2 Any person providing interference or unauthorized assistance to a competitor during a course of fire (and the competitor receiving such assistance) may, at the discretion of a Range Officer, incur a 34 USPSA Handgun Rules, February 2014 Edition procedural penalty for that stage and/or be subject to Section 10.6
  3. I do not like land mines at all, I do not like them big or small. I do not like them on the ground, I do not like them square or round. I'm too old and fat to run, Athletic feats are not much fun. It's too hot out in the sun, I just want to shoot my gun. Don't make me squat or lie on the grass, It hurts when I land on all that brass. I don't need your complaining or your sass, If you don't agree, you can.....squad with someone else.
  4. 1 procedural for not following the WSB 10.2.2 A competitor who fails to comply with a procedure specified in the written stage briefing will incur one procedural penalty for each occurrence. However, if a competitor has gained a significant advantage during non-compliance, the competitor may be assessed one procedural penalty for each shot fired, instead of a single penalty (e.g. firing multiple shots contrary to the required position or stance). I do not believe there is enough of a significant advantage gained by reloading from the belt to apply a per shot penalty 10.2.4 A competitor who fails to comply with a mandatory reload will incur one procedural penalty for each shot fired after the point where the reload was required until a reload is performed. Doesn't apply. Reload was performed, just not from the location specified in WSB.
  5. If your pocket is in front of your hip bone, and you use a rock from that pocket, you get bumped to open......
  6. I had to reverse myself after a "STOP" call. Level I match, competitor moving left to right after shooting around the left side of a wall. His pistol got hung up on the edge of the wall, and I know in my heart from his body position that his muzzle broke the 90 degree median intercept. I was behind and slightly to the right of the competitor. As soon as I called "STOP", I knew I'd have to require a reshoot. Why? I couldn't see his muzzle from behind him. I "know" he broke the line from his body position, but I never actually saw the muzzle break the line. I can only call what I can see. Apologized to the competitor, explained what happened, reset the stage, and put him back into the shooting order. I'd like to think I'm a decent RO, but sometimes we screw up.
  7. While some may think of some rules as "overly strict", most accidents don't have a single cause. They are "cascade failures", where if any one of the steps had not occurred, the incident would have been avoided. That's why there is no ammo handling at the safe table. That's why there is a 90 degree median intercept rule. That's why there is a finger outside the trigger guard while loading, unloading or movement rule. If we remove any one step from the accident scenario, there is a lot less permanent heartache. Some people say this is a dangerous sport. I disagree. But it is a sport that is inherently unforgiving of accidents. Strict adherence to the safety rules is paramount.
  8. I sent an Email to DNROI, Troy answered it, not sure if that is official enough for you but it is for me. You can ask him whether or not it's an official ruling if you want to. Just to be clear on this point - it is NOT an official ruling. The only official rulings are posted here: http://www.uspsa.org/uspsa-NROI-rulings-listing.php Quoting from the page: "The head of NROI will frequently answer questions regarding the rules from members. Answers to routine questions which do not have the impact of "rulings" are not published on this page. Although rulings are generally issued by NROI, the USPSA Board has final authority over all rulings. Each of these rulings was made available to the board for a 7 day "review and approval period", and publication on this page indicated board approval." Having said that, I have emailed Troy a couple of times in an effort to be consistent with what is being taught and enforced. The more I understand why a rule exists, and how it is meant to be fairly and equitably enforced makes me a more consistent RO. An opinion from the DNROI, even if not an official ruling, comes from years of experience. Are they perfect? Nope. I've read threads where current and former RMIs disagree. But I always learn something during the discussion. I have great respect for the RMI staff. When they speak, my brain is engaged and my mouth in in neutral. Doesn't mean I don't question them, but it does mean I'm more interested in getting it right than being right.
  9. Nicorette lozenges (actually the Walgreens brand) worked for me when nothing else did. I know it's hard. I smoked for 35 years. But it can be done. Haven't smoked in 4 years. When I'm around someone who smokes, I can't believe I used to smell like that. Just had a CT scan for an unrelated issue. Heart and lungs look good. So far, dodged a bullet.
  10. Texas DPS provides statistics on CHL holder offenses: https://www.txdps.state.tx.us/RSD/CHL/Reports/ConvictionRatesReport2014.pdf In 2014, Texas CHL holders comprised 0.2341% of the people convicted of offenses.
  11. At a sanctioned match, only USPSA rules apply. Not local range rules. Range Rules can be more restrictive. Please provide a USPSA rule that supports your statement. Show me a USPSA rule that says a club cannot be more restrictive! 3.3 Applicability of Rules: USPSA matches are governed by the rules applicable to the discipline. Host organizations may not enforce local rules except to comply with legislation or legal precedent in the applicable jurisdiction. Any voluntarily adopted rules that are not in compliance with these rules must not be applied to USPSA matches without the express written consent of the President of USPSA. All local rules allowed under these provisions will be documented at USPSA HQ.
  12. In this instance, I send a squad member downrange to tape/reset under the supervision of the clipboard RO. As a timer RO, I stand directly in front of, and facing, the competitor. If they talk to me, I will enjoy a moment of conversation. If they have their eyes closed visualizing the stage, I stay quiet. Once the clipboard RO gives me an all clear, I will visually look at the range to double check. I don't make anyone put their hands on their head. As a courtesy, I will give the competitor the Make Ready command a second time. This puts them (and me) as close to the normal routine as possible.
  13. Not necessarily -- though that's likely...... There could have been a disappearing target..... Someone could have engaged two targets with a single round..... Well, actually not. All targets (and range props except target sticks) are "impenetrable". If you hit one target the bullet effectively "disappears", and any holes in other targets (or hits on steel) don't count. (If it's steel it's a Range Equipment Failure...) Don't forget partial diameter hits 9.1.5.3 If a bullet strikes partially within the scoring area of a paper or metal target, and continues on to strike the scoring area of another paper target, the hit on the subsequent paper target will also count for score or penalty, as the case may be. 9.1.5.4 If a bullet strikes partially within the scoring area of a paper or metal target, and continues on to strike down or hit the scoring area of another metal target, the subsequent metal target will also count for score or penalty, as the case may be.
  14. 3.3.1 In states where competitors are restricted by law to maximum magazine capacity, that maximum capacity will be the maximum allowed for all competitors in the contest. Any such limitations must be made known to all competitors by the Match Director/Range Master before the start of the match. While 3.3.1 sets a magazine capacity limit, it gives no penalty for breaking the rule. The rule cites maximum magazine capacity, and it is the only place in the rulebook that does. Division requirements citing ammunition capacity are just that: they limit the amount of ammunition you can put in the magazine, not the maximum capacity of the magazine. If a competitor uses a 15 round magazine in a state limiting magazine capacity to 10 rounds, it is a violation of rule 3.3.1. But there is no penalty, as long as the competitor doesn't load more than 10 rounds in the magazine. If he/she does, then 6.2.5.1 comes into play: 6.2.5.1 However, if a competitor fails to satisfy the equipment or other requirements of a declared Division during a course of fire, the competitor will be placed in Open Division, if available, other-wise the competitor will shoot the match for no score. And please, no DQ per 10.6.ifeellikeit. If you can't find a specific rule, just don't do it.
  15. I think we need more information. If the shot was after "If finished, unload and show clear" was given, and the competitor dropped his mag, noticed a target not engaged, and put one round into it to save 20 points, no problem. Almost certainly not worth the time, but that is a decision up to the competitor. If it happened during a mag change, and (despite the shocked look on his face when the gun went off) the competitor claimed it was intentional, I'd drop the BS flag and the big DQ bomb.
  16. While there may potentially be more unvarnished information at some other forums (some true, some not), the childish name calling, chest beating, mob-mentality and alpha dog shenanigans leave me so terribly weary. I have seen countless polite, well-reasoned disagreements on this forum that did not disintegrate into the kind of trash I have seen elsewhere. To that, I give my thanks to BE, the mods, and the stand-up members of this forum. I like my home clean.
  17. Perhaps I am out of the loop and something has occurred that I am not aware of, but you chose some strong words to start your OP. I am hoping an isolated incident got blown out of proportion, misunderstandings didn't get resolved, tempers flared, and a someone posted in the heat of the moment. Otherwise, perhaps the NROI would like to know the details of the incident. I agree with Sarge. In my experience, out and out cheating is pretty rare.
  18. Playing Devil's Advocate "unless otherwise specified, the competitor must stand erect, facing downrange, with arms and hands hanging naturally by the sides" Once you have otherwise specified a change to any part of the above phrase, you have invalidated the entire phrase. Once you say "sitting facing uprange", you either have to specify hand position or allow the competitor to do pretty much what they want with their hands. During the course of fire, after the start signal, unless stipulated otherwise in the stage procedure, spare ammunition, magazines and/or speed loading devices shall be carried in retention devices attached to the competitor's belt and specifically designed for that purpose. "All ammunition to be used on table". You have now stipulated otherwise. Do with it what you will after the start signal (as long as it doesn't break any division rules).
  19. Funniest one I've heard in while was from my buddy, who was helping me out on a project. When I asked for his advice on a fine point, he replied "Your call. You're the one f**king this chicken, I'm just holding its wings." Glad I wasn't drinking anything when he said that.
  20. Leningrad Cowboys covering "Sweet Home Alabama." With the Red Army Chorus. They break into "The Volga Boatsong" at the end.
  21. From the latest USPSA Classification Matches Book (online at http://www.uspsa.org/uspsa-classifier-list.php): Practical shooting is distinct from other shooting disciplines in that the responsibility for determining the best, safe solution to the problem presented by a course of fire is the competitor’s. In other words, practical shooting intends to test the ability to think in addition to testing the ability to shoot rapidly and accurately. That intent is formalized in the Practical Shooting Handbook, in which IPSC 1.1.5 says, “IPSC matches are freestyle.” It is, however, necessary to establish an exception in the case of the classification system. The classification system is able to determine a competitor’s accuracy and speed as those abilities are quantifiable. The system is not able to measure the ability to “game” a stage as those intangible skills are not quantifiable. If competitors are allowed to outsmart the classification course designer the results are meaningless. The primary responsibility for honoring this concept of fairness as it applies to the classification system lies with the competitor. The secondary responsibility is that of the match directors and range officers to ensure that the stages are run properly. I would not start the competitor. I would take the above statement to the arb committee, if the competitor decided to take it that far.
  22. I have a flat trigger on my limited gun. But like most other things in life, it's personal preference.
  23. Thread drift, but I think applicable. I have a several goals as an RO. Some of them I'm pretty good at, others still need work: 1. Be a "non-event." If possible, I do not want to impact a run in any way, shape or form. Unless the competitor or other events require my intervention, I want to be an observer. 2. Respect the competitor's run. Each competitor has paid their match fee, and deserves as much time as they need to get in the zone, shake it out, get their groove on, or whatever they choose to call their prep. It may seem excessive to take 6 sight pictures, or to re-check that every magazine goes in easily and drops freely, but it's their run. It usually doesn't take nearly as long as it seems, and if it is truly nuts, peer pressure will take care of it. 3. Be consistent. Be predictable. That includes range commands. The competitor will know exactly what to expect from me each and every time. He/she will know exactly what commands I'm going to give, because they have heard them verbatim from me running the 10 competitors ahead of them. They will know if the scoring call is close, I AM going to overlay it. Every time. I also think consistency generally helps the competitors relax and focus on the task at hand without unexpected distractions from the RO. 4. If I have to make a call, make it immediately and be able to show the competitor exactly which rule in the rulebook supports my decision. 5. Listen to the competitor. He or she may be right. Even if not, they still deserve the respect of being heard. 6. And the hardest one for me - the one that took the longest to achieve: Move on. Make the call and move on. Don't second guess yourself, don't allow a competitor's argument to upset you, and don't give the next competitor anything except your full attention. 7. Have fun. I get to witness some great competitors shoot. I get to see some of the weirdest and funniest things. In the end, I get to spend the day with great people.
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