jmurch Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I did do a search on this and know this info is here somewhere but I sure can't find it............. What do I need to do to 'clean up' my G17/4 mags to load more than 16 rounds. Or am I just imagining that I've read about this and 16 is all I'll get? TIA, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul-the new guy Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 push harder! and, remember in a match if you are doing a reload and the slide is down you need to really put the magazine in forcibly it is a little tougher than with 16or less or when at slide lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaGunner Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 (edited) You should get 17 rounds in the hi-cap mags. Your spring might be to stiff,try using the mag loader. Also,once you get 17rnds in, leave it fully loaded for a couple days so the mag spring will take a set. Edited October 6, 2010 by Roy Hess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenDot Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Load 8 rounds then tap basepad like your spanking it, load 4-5 more, repeat.. load rest. if it is a new mag, shove 10 rounds in it and let it sit overnight or 2... then try step #1 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street Survival Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 You should never load your Glock Mag to full capacity. Always down load it one round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 (edited) You should never load your Glock Mag to full capacity. Always down load it one round. Totally untrue. At work we've issued multiple thousands of Glocks, and require that the magazines be fully loaded....hasn't caused any problems yet. I've got some training mags that were kept loaded to full capacity for over a decade, and they still work fine on the original springs. For duty use, we'll swap them out maybe every five years, or if they're really chewed up, but that's just being conservative. R, Edited November 28, 2010 by G-ManBart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 You should never load your Glock Mag to full capacity. Always down load it one round. I've been loading my Glock mags to 17 rounds for, oh, 20 years without a single problem. Just what sort of hideous problem is "never" loading a Glock mag to the capacity it was designed to accept supposed to avoid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagi Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 check your follower maybe it's binding somewhere in the mag......you may be suprise small plastic can prevent you in loading full capacity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 (edited) You should never load your Glock Mag to full capacity. Always down load it one round. Totally untrue. Yes! No matter what Vickers and Hackathorn say. I have 2 original NFML Glock mags with original springs that have been fully loaded for 20 years (minus about 5 minutes to shoot and reload). I shoot the mags out once a year and reload. I've worn out springs on mags that have been cycled thousands of times however. Glock magazines springs don't have any "compression" set and are creep resistant. Edited November 30, 2010 by MarkCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 (edited) For the OP, you should be able to get 17 rounds new from the factory, but you might have to use the loader. There could be a piece of flash (plastic) in the body interior or on the follower blocking something. I have also seen badly bulged cases result in the reduction of 1 round on Glock hi-caps as well, but I'll assume that is not your case. Edited November 30, 2010 by MarkCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBP55 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 You should never load your Glock Mag to full capacity. Always down load it one round. I disagree, I fill my magazine to capacity put one in the chamber and top my magazine off. 17+1 in a G17. I keep many magazines loaded to the max and never had a problem. Many LEA's require the magazines topped off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Glock grad school student here! Fill er up! There will be no problems- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biloxi23 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I first heard of this during my Southeast Asia experience with the old M-16 magazines. It was probably based on the reasoning that because the aluminum 20 round mags were orginally designed as throwaways, the springs were crappy. As was some of the ammo, and as were the most horrigle item ever foisted on our troops. I am referring Vietnam-era jungle boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 In my experience, if you load aluminum AR-15 mags to their stated 20 or 30 round capacity, in many instances it will be impossible to seat the mag with the bolt forward. Downloading one or two cartridges will get around that. NOT the case with G17 mags, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 You should never load your Glock Mag to full capacity. Always down load it one round. Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 You should never load your Glock Mag to full capacity. Always down load it one round. Huh? Are you deaf? He said don't load you Glock mags to capacity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I did do a search on this and know this info is here somewhere but I sure can't find it............. What do I need to do to 'clean up' my G17/4 mags to load more than 16 rounds. Or am I just imagining that I've read about this and 16 is all I'll get? TIA, Jeff So what happened? Did you get this problem fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evild Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 You should never load your Glock Mag to full capacity. Always down load it one round. Had my G17 since 89, always have the mags full. Never had a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmurch Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 MarkCO, Yep just had to push down harder to stuff the last one in. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Yes, I see that the front/bottom of the slide is considerably larger. I knew that. But the front of the dustcover has been scalloped out to contain that, so the overall size of the front of the guns when they're assembled should be the same - or so close as to make no different with most (though apparently not all, in your case) holsters. How about photos of the fronts of the two guns actually assembled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street Survival Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Listen up, Just because you have been doing something for years doesn't mean it's right. I have taken several Advanced Glock Armorer Courses and this is what they teach Police Personnel. If you think you know better, good luck with that. What's the name of Glenn Becks book? Stay Safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBP55 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) Listen up, Just because you have been doing something for years doesn't mean it's right. I have taken several Advanced Glock Armorer Courses and this is what they teach Police Personnel. If you think you know better, good luck with that. What's the name of Glenn Becks book? Stay Safe In many LEO classes they teach you to top off the magazine after loading one in the chamber. Edited December 9, 2010 by JBP55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOvalBruin Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Well, I don’t consider the stuff that comes from the armorers courses to be gospel. They say very little oil on just a few parts and never grease and I find that to be bogus. Try running a gun for 1-2k rds without cleaning like a lot of us do with just those few dabs of oil. Hopefully your trigger bar doesn’t seize to the connector. I think this downloaded mag thing is a bit bogus too. Perhaps 1 out of 40 (random number) mags can’t run properly topped off so they play conservative and tell everyone to download their mags just in case. But if you have mags that you’ve validated will run with a full 17rds I don’t see why there would be any problem using them. Maybe they teach that to leo’s because downloaded mags are easier to seat. My limited .40 mags can hold 20 but they’re difficult to reload so I only put 19 in the reload mags so I get consistent seating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evild Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Listen up, Just because you have been doing something for years doesn't mean it's right. I have taken several Advanced Glock Armorer Courses and this is what they teach Police Personnel. If you think you know better, good luck with that. What's the name of Glenn Becks book? Stay Safe I go with what I know, and another Glock school grad above stated to fill it up. Working in health care has made me very pessimistic of the so called "experts", I have trained some of the people who are now "educators", they don't know half of what i do based on experience, this is no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty whiteboy Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Listen up, Just because you have been doing something for years doesn't mean it's right. I have taken several Advanced Glock Armorer Courses and this is what they teach Police Personnel. If you think you know better, good luck with that. What's the name of Glenn Becks book? Stay Safe There are those who go to school for an education, and those who go to the field. Shoot 10's of thosands of rounds through a glock, you will learn the do's and don'ts. I fill the mags full, even the ones with ext pads, and I practice seating them. I have found, there will be times when you need to reload to a 20 rd mag, so you better have it in your bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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