benos Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 It took me quite a while to find this old post, so I started a thread with it to make it easier to find later... And for a live-fire drill, next time you're at the range, try the following drill. Set up 3 IPSC targets at 10 yards, about a yard a apart, edge to edge. Only hits in the A box count. On the buzzer draw and shoot one shot at each target - left to right, then repeat left to right, then repeat again left to right - for a total of 9 shots. Check your time, add a half second for each non-A, and note your score. You don't really care about your score that much, just remember it for later. Shoot a 6 - 10 strings, to establish an average score. While you're establishing your average - you're just shooting like you normally would. Don't try any new tricks or anything at all. In the end just know your average score for the drill. As I was typing part 2, I thought of a way to keep it real. There won't be a part 2 until you go to the range and do part 1. Then PM me, and I'll reply with part 2. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 man...a HALF a second? This is "Enos Factor Scoring" gone wild. I'l try to get this done before the weekend. I need to work on "the dot" anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohuskers Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 I'll try this tomorrow and get back with you. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Yup, sounds like a good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor_R Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Will be adding this to my drills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Hmm, I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 It took me quite a while to find this old post, so I started a thread with it to make it easier to find later... And for a live-fire drill, next time you're at the range, try the following drill. Set up 3 IPSC targets at 10 yards, about a yard a apart, edge to edge. Only hits in the A box count. On the buzzer draw and shoot one shot at each target - left to right, then repeat left to right, then repeat again left to right - for a total of 9 shots. Check your time, add a half second for each non-A, and note your score. You don't really care about your score that much, just remember it for later. Shoot a 6 - 10 strings, to establish an average score. While you're establishing your average - you're just shooting like you normally would. Don't try any new tricks or anything at all. In the end just know your average score for the drill. As I was typing part 2, I thought of a way to keep it real. There won't be a part 2 until you go to the range and do part 1. Then PM me, and I'll reply with part 2. be I will do this sometime this week. Cool stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWHaz Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 It took me quite a while to find this old post, so I started a thread with it to make it easier to find later... And for a live-fire drill, next time you're at the range, try the following drill. Set up 3 IPSC targets at 10 yards, about a yard a apart, edge to edge. Only hits in the A box count. On the buzzer draw and shoot one shot at each target - left to right, then repeat left to right, then repeat again left to right - for a total of 9 shots. Check your time, add a half second for each non-A, and note your score. You don't really care about your score that much, just remember it for later. Shoot a 6 - 10 strings, to establish an average score. While you're establishing your average - you're just shooting like you normally would. Don't try any new tricks or anything at all. In the end just know your average score for the drill. As I was typing part 2, I thought of a way to keep it real. There won't be a part 2 until you go to the range and do part 1. Then PM me, and I'll reply with part 2. be I seem to remember this one. I have not done it for a while, I will do it again and see if I have improved. Thanks benos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) I went out and shot this today. Had several runs that were all A's in mid to high fives. If my time was better the hits suffered and the overall adjusted time was worse. I am going to add this to the livefire routine. Edited July 15, 2010 by Coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramas Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Classic drill for transitions! And I do it a lot! Cool stuff for part 2 also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskySig Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 For Part 1, is each string 3 shots or 9 shots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 if i can ever get to the range for some live fire practice on my own Ill def try this out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted July 16, 2010 Author Share Posted July 16, 2010 For Part 1, is each string 3 shots or 9 shots? 9 shots. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskySig Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 I must be slow, so bare with me. Which is the correct engagement pattern? Order 1: T1, T2, T3, T3, T2, T1, T1, T2, T3 Order 2: T1, T2, T3, T2, T1, T2, T3, T2, T1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edison Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 I must be slow, so bare with me. Which is the correct engagement pattern? Order 1: T1, T2, T3, T3, T2, T1, T1, T2, T3 Order 2: T1, T2, T3, T2, T1, T2, T3, T2, T1 I think it's T1, T2, T3, T1, T2, T3, T1, T2, T3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted July 16, 2010 Author Share Posted July 16, 2010 I must be slow, so bare with me. Which is the correct engagement pattern? Order 1: T1, T2, T3, T3, T2, T1, T1, T2, T3 Order 2: T1, T2, T3, T2, T1, T2, T3, T2, T1 I think it's T1, T2, T3, T1, T2, T3, T1, T2, T3 Yes. Left to right, left to right, left to right. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4045 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Ran it today. 5.5 avg with 2 points down, with a CZ shadow. Used the Glock 34 also, 4.1 avg and 2 points down. Also a 6" STI 3.4 down 3 points. I am still trying to figure out if I can laearn to shoot the CZ. It's accurate enough, I just can't get any speed out of it. Good drill I plan to add to my practice regimen for Nationals. So what is part 2? I will be shooting production and need to get my hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 ... add a half second for each non-A, and note your score As I was typing part 2, I thought of a way to keep it real. There won't be a part 2 until you go to the range and do part 1. Then PM me, and I'll reply with part 2. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Great drill, tried it the other week. Will be adding this to my live fire drill book... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris iliff Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Did this tonight. I averaged my first 7 runs for 5.62s. Then I played with it for awhile and burned some runs into the high 4's. As Coach says, the faster i tried to go the worse my score became. Best runs happened after the first 7 and they were all "vision". Great drill, can't wait for part 2 from Brian, PM sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyGlock Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I always do drills going both directions to lessen possible weak areas. I plan to do this 5 strings goin L-R, 5 strings R-L then ave all strings. will this defeat the purpose for the Part 2? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 I always do drills going both directions to lessen possible weak areas. I plan to do this 5 strings goin L-R, 5 strings R-L then ave all strings. will this defeat the purpose for the Part 2? Thanks. Not at all. It will make sense when you read part 2. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawel Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 long time lurker here but my fisrt post i think on this matter, will tr it out when i get to the range! cant wait to di this and most importantly cant wait for part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfd147 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 I will have to try this with IDPA targets, but it sounds like a good drill. I will shoot it this evening if there is no rain. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkeeler Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) I shot this today. I did not try any new tricks as the description says..........but I did notice a few things while shooting Part 1. Is what I noticed, I was having trouble having a focus on the front site through the whole drill. I would get through the first part and then the second part mid way through I caught myself having a target focus the hits suffered as a result. Time to get Part 2! Edited August 1, 2010 by bkeeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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