Fullauto_Shooter Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 (edited) We shooters are a competitive bunch that always strive for speed. We all want to draw faster, reload faster, transitition faster, move faster, shoot faster splits, etc. In keeping with our competitive spirit, I'm interested to see how well I stack up to the competition when it comes to filling a Dillon Primer tube. Since we'll always have gamers, I'll outline the rules of this contest. 1. NO Automatic Primer Fillers Allowed - Primer tubes must be filled manually 2. For purposes of uniformity, only Small Pistol/Rifle Primers are allowed - not sure you can gain any advantage by using Large Primers (and you can post your times if you want) but only Small Primers count for "official score" - any brand will do - I use Winchester Small Pistol - FWIW 3. Only stock, unmodified Dillon Primer Pickup Tubes are allowed - high zoot, race-tubes will NOT count for "official score" 4. You may use any type of Primer Flip Tray 5. Time starts when you lift the top off the Primer Flip Tray 6. Time ends when you've picked up your 100th Primer in your Primer Tube 7. Record time to the nearest whole second (round down if .49 or less / round up is .50 or more) Over the course of 5 "strings" my results are: Best Time - 39 seconds Worst Time - 52 seconds (had two primers flip upside down and had to manually right them) Average Time - 44 seconds Edited July 16, 2008 by Fullauto_Shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpty1 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 tube loader ready.......standby........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maineshootah Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I had to restart due to creeping.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Suber Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 We shooters are a competitive bunch that always strive for speed. We all want to draw faster, reload faster, transitition faster, move faster, shoot faster splits, etc. In keeping with our competitive spirit, I'm interested to see how well I stack up to the competition when it comes to filling a Dillon Primer tube. Since we'll always have gamers, I'll outline the rules of this contest.1. NO Automatic Primer Fillers Allowed - Primer tubes must be filled manually 2. For purposes of uniformity, only Small Pistol/Rifle Primers are allowed - not sure you can gain any advantage by using Large Primers (and you can post your times if you want) but only Small Primers count for "official score" - any brand will do - I use Winchester Small Pistol - FWIW 3. Only stock, unmodified Dillon Primer Pickup Tubes are allowed - high zoot, race-tubes will NOT count for "official score" 4. You may use any type of Primer Flip Tray 5. Time starts when you lift the top off the Primer Flip Tray 6. Time ends when you've picked up your 100th Primer in your Primer Tube 7. Record time to the nearest whole second (round down if .49 or less / round up is .50 or more) Over the course of 5 "strings" my results are: Best Time - 39 seconds Worst Time - 52 seconds (had two primers flip upside down and had to manually right them) Average Time - 44 seconds I do primers in Open Division only....... Vibra-prime!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribble Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 We shooters are a competitive bunch that always strive for speed. We all want to draw faster, reload faster, transitition faster, move faster, shoot faster splits, etc. In keeping with our competitive spirit, I'm interested to see how well I stack up to the competition when it comes to filling a Dillon Primer tube. Since we'll always have gamers, I'll outline the rules of this contest.1. NO Automatic Primer Fillers Allowed - Primer tubes must be filled manually 2. For purposes of uniformity, only Small Pistol/Rifle Primers are allowed - not sure you can gain any advantage by using Large Primers (and you can post your times if you want) but only Small Primers count for "official score" - any brand will do - I use Winchester Small Pistol - FWIW 3. Only stock, unmodified Dillon Primer Pickup Tubes are allowed - high zoot, race-tubes will NOT count for "official score" 4. You may use any type of Primer Flip Tray 5. Time starts when you lift the top off the Primer Flip Tray 6. Time ends when you've picked up your 100th Primer in your Primer Tube 7. Record time to the nearest whole second (round down if .49 or less / round up is .50 or more) Over the course of 5 "strings" my results are: Best Time - 39 seconds Worst Time - 52 seconds (had two primers flip upside down and had to manually right them) Average Time - 44 seconds I do primers in Open Division only....... Vibra-prime!! 100000+ LOL!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgibson Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 If the primers are in the try upside down when you open it, does that constitue a range equipment malfunction and require a "refill"? Adios, TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el pres Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I swept myself and got DQed !! I'll try this later today !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I'm running in open because I have a Red Dot on the tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisStock Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I haven't loaded a primer tube in a year or so. How is this, you ask? My wife actually comes to me and asks if she can do it. She enjoys it, the tubes get filled, I keep on cranking out the ammo. I think I win with a time of 0 and no points down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 If still had Primer Pickup Tubes I'd be all over this. I made sucking up the primers a visual game (like I do with almost everything I do actually). But I never timed myself, so I can't even do a write-in. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer-lock Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Over the course of 5 "strings" my results are:Best Time - 39 seconds Worst Time - 52 seconds (had two primers flip upside down and had to manually right them) Average Time - 44 seconds First liar ain't got a snowball's chance... David C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I'm a old time vibra prime guy, why would I want to see how slow I can go?-----------Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boba Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I haven't loaded a primer tube in a year or so. How is this, you ask? My wife actually comes to me and asks if she can do it. She enjoys it, the tubes get filled, I keep on cranking out the ammo. I think I win with a time of 0 and no points down. Man I asked my wife if she would like to spend some quality time with me and load the primer tubes and she just gave me a funny look.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonT Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Tube #1, 58 seconds. Tube #2, 65 seconds. Tried to change technique, tried to go too fast, didn't see what I needed to see. Tube #3, 53 seconds. Wasn't able to look up the classifiers but I reckon this puts me in "D" class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Not quite your start position, but: Starting with an unopened box of 1000 Winchester primers (10 trays), ending with ten full tubes, takes me 9 to 10 minutes routinely. I use shred's two tray flip technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullauto_Shooter Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 Not quite your start position, but:Starting with an unopened box of 1000 Winchester primers (10 trays), ending with ten full tubes, takes me 9 to 10 minutes routinely. I use shred's two tray flip technique. That's pretty impressive for an entire box. I've been "speed filling" for years, but only recently but a timer on it. I really like what Brian said about the visual aspects of this activity / drill - it's almost like I can visualize the primer being "sucked up" into the primer tube. This drill also has a high "crash factor" if you try to outrun your capabilities - I've spilled near-full trays of primers on the floor because I was "filling" tuibes too aggressively. Come on, give your fancy Dillon fillers and Vibra-Primes a break and get back to your roots - break out some primer tubes and "make ready". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullauto_Shooter Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 If the primers are in the try upside down when you open it, does that constitue a range equipment malfunction and require a "refill"? Adios, TG Nope - it's up to the individual "filler" to ensure his primers are properly oriented prior to removing the top of the tray and beginning the course of "fill". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullauto_Shooter Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 I haven't loaded a primer tube in a year or so. How is this, you ask? My wife actually comes to me and asks if she can do it. She enjoys it, the tubes get filled, I keep on cranking out the ammo. I think I win with a time of 0 and no points down. If your wife is willing to do this, I'd have to agree that you're the winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Not quite your start position, but:Starting with an unopened box of 1000 Winchester primers (10 trays), ending with ten full tubes, takes me 9 to 10 minutes routinely. I use shred's two tray flip technique. That's pretty impressive for an entire box. I've been "speed filling" for years, but only recently but a timer on it. I really like what Brian said about the visual aspects of this activity / drill - it's almost like I can visualize the primer being "sucked up" into the primer tube. This drill also has a high "crash factor" if you try to outrun your capabilities - I've spilled near-full trays of primers on the floor because I was "filling" tuibes too aggressively. Come on, give your fancy Dillon fillers and Vibra-Primes a break and get back to your roots - break out some primer tubes and "make ready". Using shred's technique, you basically end up with a tray of upside down (anvil up) primers. Plop the square RCBS primer tray on top, flip and take off the original primer tray, and you have a nice, evenly spaced 10x10 array of primers, which are easy to p/u with the standard p/u tubes - no pushing and chasing individual primers all over the flip tray... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milanuk Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 So... how well does that work with boxes of Remington 7-1/2 Small Rifle primers... If you've got a secret for flipping those little buggers over w/o doing the 'chase' bit... I'm all ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbeck Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 3.8 seconds, but I only load 6 at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I haven't loaded a primer tube in a year or so. How is this, you ask? My wife actually comes to me and asks if she can do it. She enjoys it, the tubes get filled, I keep on cranking out the ammo. I think I win with a time of 0 and no points down. +1 - my wife loves loading tubes as well. But I have to call it about 30 mins to an hour because she will do it while she watched TV, and seems to pace herself to the length of the show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sargenv Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Yeah, that works good for Winchester primers or any primer that doesn't store them sideways (like Federals and CCI's) otherwise you need do the shake, rattle, and roll to get them in the right position. I've used the technique Kevin describes for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Using shred's technique, you basically end up with a tray of upside down (anvil up) primers. Plop the square RCBS primer tray on top, flip and take off the original primer tray, and you have a nice, evenly spaced 10x10 array of primers, which are easy to p/u with the standard p/u tubes - no pushing and chasing individual primers all over the flip tray... That's funny.. I've used the RF-100 (time from lifting full primer box from brick to punching fill button and returning to loading: 4 seconds ) for so long I forgot I used to do that.. I never liked the Remington and Federal packaging much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchwrench Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I don't know the time...but it's faster (1 tube) then Greg Norman can sink a par putt at the British Open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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