MJF Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I have three holsters for my Shadow 2, all from top tier companies. My problem is unless the tension screws are almost completely backed out it is very difficult to draw the gun from the holster. The holster mounted with a Boss hanger on a DA belt works the best due to the belt being very stiff. The two with Teklok mounted on a standard everyday gun belt are very frustrating. When I draw the gun it sticks in the holster and the whole mess wants to swing up { the muzzle wants to swing out and up } If I turn these holsters upside-down and shake, the gun easily drops out. I have many different handguns & holsters and I only have a problem with the Shadow 2. Anyone else have this problem? Thank you, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouperMan Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 2 hours ago, MJF said: I have three holsters for my Shadow 2, all from top tier companies. My problem is unless the tension screws are almost completely backed out it is very difficult to draw the gun from the holster. The holster mounted with a Boss hanger on a DA belt works the best due to the belt being very stiff. The two with Teklok mounted on a standard everyday gun belt are very frustrating. When I draw the gun it sticks in the holster and the whole mess wants to swing up { the muzzle wants to swing out and up } If I turn these holsters upside-down and shake, the gun easily drops out. I have many different handguns & holsters and I only have a problem with the Shadow 2. Anyone else have this problem? Thank you, Mike Silly question, but is the holster right handed or left handed? Trying to think where it’s getting hung up, like the mag release or the slidestop. Usually it’s a matter of breaking in the holster but drawing and holstering to wear in the kydex. Any chance the holsters were deformed in high heat? It seems that you are OWB carrying your Shadow 2. I don’t have a lot of retention on my competition holster, and my gun would probably fall out of the holster if I did the upside down test. When walking stages, for extra security I’ve seen folks use a tarp tie down to keep their guns in the holster but I don’t think that’s an option for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt350z Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Nope. My S2 flies out of my holster. Here’s the thread on the holster I’m using Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuvDog Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 If it easily drops out when you turn it upside down without ANY hangups, then it seems that it must either be canting when you're wearing it or your draw isn't straight? Maybe try running it at a slightly different height on the BOSS hanger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJF Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 It is an interesting situation. The holster with the BOSS hanger on the DA belt is the same holster that I have with the TEKLOK. That holster is binding on the draw unless the draw is perfectly straight up and down. Anything other than that and it is locked in there. The third holster is a little better. Looking at them, they are vacuum formed and there is tons of contact with the gun. The third holster looks to be pressed and has less contact and is not as finicky. My 1911s & Sigs fly out of there holsters. 13 hours ago, SouperMan said: Silly question, but is the holster right handed or left handed? Trying to think where it’s getting hung up, like the mag release or the slidestop. Usually it’s a matter of breaking in the holster but drawing and holstering to wear in the kydex. Any chance the holsters were deformed in high heat? It seems that you are OWB carrying your Shadow 2. I don’t have a lot of retention on my competition holster, and my gun would probably fall out of the holster if I did the upside down test. When walking stages, for extra security I’ve seen folks use a tarp tie down to keep their guns in the holster but I don’t think that’s an option for you. It is right handed. I can live with the DA & BOSS holster. The others I would OWB carry, but cannot master a successful draw with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt350z Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) What belt are you using? DA (assuming you mean Double Alpha Academy/DAA) makes different kinds of belt. The Lynx belt does not camber out at all. Noticed an immediate improvement on the draw using conventional kydex holsters with this belt for that reason. Edited February 14, 2023 by tt350z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJF Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 I have the Double Alpha standard belt. It works with the holsters because it is so stiff. I just can't get the holsters to work with a good quality thick leather cow style of belt. It seams that instead of just the pinch in the trigger guard area holding the gun in place, the area surrounding the slide is holding it also, causing it to bind on the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Noticed the same thing initially with my RHT for my shadow 2. The front serrations are still shaving kydex but it's gotten better. I think it's your draw angle in addition to how sharp the front serrations are on the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccuShadowPew Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I’ve ran in to a similar problem with a Shadow 2 and my glock. There’s a YouTube video about using a cam lock from Mcmastercarr that solved the problem for me. I got a longer one then the one he references. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSoupene Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Now I'm only starting my second year so I don't have a whole lot of experience in this yet. I was having problems with my shadow 2 hanging up at times last year with the BSG holster and CR speed belt. I seen the the HYDRA P+ holster and decided to give it go this year. I also bought a ratchet belt system. My draw times at the first match this year were way better than the end of last year and the gun comes out so much smoother and quicker now. From my little experience I can say it really made a big difference for me! I don't remember the name of the belt manufacture but I can get it this evening if you want it. Being able to tighten the belt up some really seems to help me but I do have gut to for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadside72 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Put good thumb screws in the tensioners or switch to a level setup. That is the point of them for competition, loosen them at Make Ready, and tighten them after Range is Clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA_USPSA Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I'm using the DAA belt and DAA Max holster for my Shadow 2. Other than the gun handle being slightly higher than I would like when the gun is in the holster, the two together work very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJF Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 Thank you all for the replies! My RHT holster is the smoothest as it isn't quite as form fitting as the others. The other two seen to have been shaved by the slide serrations. I suppose with time it will shave itself to a perfect fit. I just put the ratchet on my belt and that helps also. I also think the finish that CZ uses is a lot more grippy than bluing or a hard finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sx2gl35 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Quick draw holster lube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stmark73 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 6 hours ago, sx2gl35 said: Quick draw holster lube? Froglube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currywurst Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Silicone oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindynles Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I've been running a Safariland 5197 with their USPSA hanger, no issues at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJF Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 Thank you for the ideas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJF Posted February 18, 2023 Author Share Posted February 18, 2023 I sprayed all three holsters with silicone spray. That was the cure. I tightened up all of the tension screws and the gun just flys out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, MJF said: the gun just flys out of them. Well, let's hope not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock-n-load Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Will try the silicone spray on mine.. like that idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdively Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 4:25 PM, MJF said: I sprayed all three holsters with silicone spray. That was the cure. I tightened up all of the tension screws and the gun just flys out of them. So I'm running into this situation with my gun getting stuck in the holster on the draw too. I had to change the angle of my holster by adding a couple washers as shims. So tightening up the holster helped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyB Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 A cam lock as posted above is probably the best solution. "Unlatch" the cam lock at make ready, latch it when you holster. Can be done with thumb screws as well, but the cam lock is quicker and repeatable. Gun comes out easy when unlocked, won't come out with it locked unless you're a 300# gorilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJF Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 6:57 PM, darthdively said: So I'm running into this situation with my gun getting stuck in the holster on the draw too. I had to change the angle of my holster by adding a couple washers as shims. So tightening up the holster helped? I had to tighten them up after the silicone spray. They were to loose. The spray was the cure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody909 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 On 2/13/2023 at 7:02 PM, MJF said: I have three holsters for my Shadow 2, all from top tier companies. My problem is unless the tension screws are almost completely backed out it is very difficult to draw the gun from the holster. The holster mounted with a Boss hanger on a DA belt works the best due to the belt being very stiff. The two with Teklok mounted on a standard everyday gun belt are very frustrating. When I draw the gun it sticks in the holster and the whole mess wants to swing up { the muzzle wants to swing out and up } If I turn these holsters upside-down and shake, the gun easily drops out. I have many different handguns & holsters and I only have a problem with the Shadow 2. Anyone else have this problem? Thank you, Mike Check out Carey Concealment's Holsters. It attaches to the gun via a magnet on the barrel so you don't rely on the the kydex to drag across the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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