jejb Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just got done setting up my 2nd Dillon, an RL1100. Both have case feeders, the 1100 has the newer variable speed one. Both give me an upside down case at about the same rate, 1-2 in a 100. I can live with it and all, but wondering what others experience is. Is there something I can tweak to decrease this issue? I can't imagine folks that motorize these things can tolerate any flipped cases, so there must be someway to clean this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) press level? bench bolted to wall? correct plate? Edited August 17, 2021 by AHI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Too much brass in feeder will also cause this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I seem to get one every 4-500 rounds or so. It hasn’t annoyed me enough to worry about yet… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 To much brass as @AHI indicated. Check to make sure your plate is seated properly on the drive motor properly. Make sure it is pressed down onto the pin completely. Observe the case feeder operate and see if the plate is running flat as it runs (i.e. the plate is not wobbling). You can hold a bucket under the feeder discharge after removing the feed tube and try to see why the feeder is not flipping all of the cases as it operates continuously. If the plate is too high it does not allow gravity to cause the upside down cases to tumble out properly. Also play around with speed. It seems to run better faster even though the pace of reloading does not require that pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&W686 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I have been meaning to ask this same question. I will get 1-2 per 100 in my 650. Not a major problem, but would like to correct it. I may be putting in too much brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejb Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 Thanks for the suggestions. It is level, bench is wall anchored and it has the correct plate. I never load more than 200 9mm's in the hopper. Is that too much? I'll watch the plate to check for wobble and fully seated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Cuz said: I seem to get one every 4-500 rounds or so. It hasn’t annoyed me enough to worry about yet… About the same here, hope it doesn't get any worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I get about 1 in 50 upside down. I'll increase the speed in my next session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67isb Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 On 8/17/2021 at 12:23 PM, jejb said: I never load more than 200 9mm's in the hopper. Is that too much? I'm not sure the motor on the Dillon variable speed case feeder can handle much more than that. I had issues when I dumped a large 24 oz cupful of 9mm brass (around 275 9mm) into my case feeder. It would stop working until I let the motor cool off an and would restart. Probably exceeded the thermal limits. You might want to check and see if the case is bouncing in the funnel as it drops and flipping upside down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, 67isb said: I'm not sure the motor on the Dillon variable speed case feeder can handle much more than that. Well, 200 seems like a really low number to me, especially given the size of the hopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejb Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 13 hours ago, 67isb said: I'm not sure the motor on the Dillon variable speed case feeder can handle much more than that. I had issues when I dumped a large 24 oz cupful of 9mm brass (around 275 9mm) into my case feeder. It would stop working until I let the motor cool off an and would restart. Probably exceeded the thermal limits. You might want to check and see if the case is bouncing in the funnel as it drops and flipping upside down. It's not just the variable speed feeder. I have the 2 speed one on my 650, same issue. Turning up the speed on the new one does seem to have a made a big difference. Haven't had a flipped one in about 300 loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, jejb said: It's not just the variable speed feeder. I have the 2 speed one on my 650, same issue. Turning up the speed on the new one does seem to have a made a big difference. Haven't had a flipped one in about 300 loads. Dang - loaded 200 last night and had three of them flipped, with the motor at full speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nc1911 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I must be a lucky owner because my case feeder on my 750 operates flawlessly. Over 15 k rounds loaded never an upside down case loading 9mm. I operate the motor slowly to fill the tube just keeping up with a slow manual pace of reloading. Usually fill the hopper with 250/300 pieces of brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I run my s1050 on low speed. start with 300 to 5oo cases and maintain.( keep it close to 300) Most of the time never get a upside down case. Unless a .380 or some other case gets involved. (when loading 9MM) As Nc1911 stated I load at a speed that the feeder rarely stops. Get out your manual their are a few adjustments in the instructions you could make. A video of the case feeder running may help diagnose your issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 13 hours ago, LMS said: Well, 200 seems like a really low number to me, especially given the size of the hopper. It is disappointingly low. The size of the hopper is a lot bigger than it has to be given the motor limitations. There are aftermarket motors available with more torque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlsccsfa Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Sometimes I dump 400+ pieces of brass into the bowl, that seems to have caused the issue, but very infrequently. And I don't use auto drive, so it doesn't bother me too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I'm still getting the rare upside down case, but I'm getting ready to automate the press so I imagine this will annoy me. Figured I'd give this a bump in case anyone has any new things to try... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 DAA case feed plate increases the feed rate and fixes the problem with upside down cases. It's the best money I've spent on gun/reloading stuff in quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnymazz Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 3 hours ago, ltdmstr said: DAA case feed plate increases the feed rate and fixes the problem with upside down cases. It's the best money I've spent on gun/reloading stuff in quite a while. +1 on that. get the plate and crank the speed all the way up. Set the screws as shown, I might get one in every 1,000 cases through the hopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 7 hours ago, Cuz said: I'm still getting the rare upside down case, but I'm getting ready to automate the press so I imagine this will annoy me. Figured I'd give this a bump in case anyone has any new things to try... Yes, I imagine you will be annoyed. I certainly am. And so will your machine as it comes to a screeching halt as it locks up as the case gets pushed almost all the way station 2... but not quite all the way as it gets pinched between the shell plate and the locator pin before the shell plate completely indexes. lol... ah the joys of running automated... I'm running the DAA plate and although it is a distinct improvement over the Dillon I still get the occasional inverted case. Not as often for sure but not eliminated either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 10 hours ago, Johnnymazz said: +1 on that. get the plate and crank the speed all the way up. Set the screws as shown, I might get one in every 1,000 cases through the hopper. Plate ordered, we’ll see what it does… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejb Posted May 30, 2022 Author Share Posted May 30, 2022 Turning up the speed on my feeder has all but eliminated this problem for me (the OP here). I loaded 1500 9mm's recently and not one inverted case. I'm not running it full speed, but about 80% or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesedTech Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 On 5/26/2022 at 6:54 PM, Johnnymazz said: +1 on that. get the plate and crank the speed all the way up. Set the screws as shown, I might get one in every 1,000 cases through the hopper. Wow! What a nice and clean collator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnymazz Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Loaded 2,700 rounds of 9mm yesterday. not one upside down case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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