wanttolearn Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Over the most recent years i'm seeing more and more red dot sights milled directly into the slide. Is this now considered preferrential to mounting a red dot optic on a frame mount? thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpYoursPal Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 In open, a frame mount is almost always preferable. If you shoot CO then you don’t really have a choice - you have to mount the dot on the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanttolearn Posted June 7, 2021 Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 may i ask, why is the raised frame mount generally preferred? is the red dot more stable that way, easier to pick up? would one positioning tend to be more accurate than the other? in general it appears that an frame mount raises the optic considerably higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiden Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 For one thing, a frame mount puts less stress on your mRDS. Open guns already break optics without making them cycle with the slide. I'd say it's usually easier to pick up a dot and track dot bounce on an frame mount since the sight doesn't move with the slide when shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 I shoot with two Open major shooters who have their dots slide mounted. One of them I know has used the same DP V1 for the last 5-6 years. No problems with either. I prefer SROs so I can't mount them directly to the slide unless I use some sort of adapter plate. All of my Open guns have frame mounted dots. My other non-major competition guns have slide mounted dots. There is zero difference in picking up the dot whether slide or frame mounted. You practice until the dot comes up on target every time. You do that with either. The problem comes in when you try to switch between them. You'll likely play find the dot for a while until you retrain your muscle memory for the new gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanttolearn Posted June 7, 2021 Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 thank you to all....this information helps a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmilling Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I recently got my STI milled for a Leupold DPP, before that i had a frame mount. I dont really feel that big of a difference in theory the frame mount might be easyer to track... But i dont notice it. I find it a bit easyer to pick up the dot, since it is mounted lower and will be where your irons would have been. Thats feels more natural to me. But again... Not that big of a difference. Tracking the dot is no problem with the right load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 most open shooters spend tons of time trying to make the slide as light as possible so it can move faster. I tried a bunch of dots on one of my open guns slide mounted and 9major broke all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 The frame mounted dot doesn't reciprocate, obviously this is better. You see a lot of slide mounted dots because that is a requirement in Carry Optics division, but not Open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheers623 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 5:13 AM, Rasmilling said: I recently got my STI milled for a Leupold DPP, before that i had a frame mount. I dont really feel that big of a difference in theory the frame mount might be easyer to track... But i dont notice it. I find it a bit easyer to pick up the dot, since it is mounted lower and will be where your irons would have been. Thats feels more natural to me. But again... Not that big of a difference. Tracking the dot is no problem with the right load. Who did the milling for your slide to mount the dot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmilling Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 12:04 AM, cheers623 said: Who did the milling for your slide to mount the dot? A gunsmith here in Denmark Vaabensmeden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dranoel Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 A lot of people find frame mounted dots "easier to track" because it's not moving with the slide. Here's a news flash for you. You're not going to see the dot whole the gun is cycling anyway. And quite frankly, if you are, you're doing it all wrong. If you are focused on the dot transitioning to the next target you are going to overshoot the target and have to readjust. Once the shot fires I don't care where the sights go. My eyes are shifting to the next target and I bring the sights to my visual focus on the target. Believe it or not, if you have mastered your index, your body can FAR more easily stop your, gun with the sights aligned, on the target. Try this: Hold your arm out straight and point to something on the wall. Then track your finger to a chosen point on the opposite wall. Now do the same drill again but ignore where your finger is an visually acquire the second target as you turn. I'm betting the second way is quicker for you. And it is no different with a gun. Hardest part is mastering your index, which you should have done by now anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramairbrc Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 5:13 AM, Rasmilling said: I recently got my STI milled for a Leupold DPP, before that i had a frame mount. I dont really feel that big of a difference in theory the frame mount might be easyer to track... But i dont notice it. I find it a bit easyer to pick up the dot, since it is mounted lower and will be where your irons would have been. Thats feels more natural to me. But again... Not that big of a difference. Tracking the dot is no problem with the right load. I did the same thing in 1999, I sent my .38 Super STI slide to Arredondo, he cut it for my Doctor Optic and sold me a double battery mount. I enjoyed it for most of a season, but the cycling was tough on the optic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 In my open G34 I have an SJC mount and has worked flawlessly. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLEAh7Bstw0lf4LLNWm9P6A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APL-G35 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Frame mount all the way for open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenshooterMclass4lyfe Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 For open their is no reason to not go frame mount….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tator2k Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 I'm having a hard time finding someone in timely fashion to change out my frame mount. I finally ran out of spare parts for my holosight on my Casipan and need to change mounts. I only run for steel anymore so I figured it would be an easy change out and potentially reuse the existing holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Man, if you were in FL I would have a recommendation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvip27 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 2/3 gun guys like slide ride because they have more options for higher retention holsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpodi Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 “Guns guys” vs competitive shooters. This board is geared toward the latter, so you’ll see more recommendations for frame mount because it’s better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Yep, way better. But you do whatever turns you on. Carry optics is a minor division. You need to shoot major in Open. Good luck having a dot survive Open mounted on the slide. This all pretty simple but some people need to find out for themselves because they lay in bed thinking about why things are as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpYoursPal Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 20 hours ago, Jpodi said: “Guns guys” vs competitive shooters. This board is geared toward the latter, so you’ll see more recommendations for frame mount because it’s better. I mean, 2 gun and 3 gun shooters are still competitive shooters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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