Furrly Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Like I said, Adam will make things right!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m700 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Fanboy or not, Agree with giving original maker or smith a few opportunities to fix their problems. If years go by and they still havent accomplished anything then it is quite alright to send it elsewhere. (Dont buy from LOSOK) I sent rifle back to him 5-10 times over 3 years trying to give him a chance to make it shoot straight. Ended up selling the rifle for parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleDude Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I think you will get covered and they will make it right. I was thinking about this issue and the reason why it wouldnt lock up completely on first round. Did you notice any abnormal wear on locking lugs on barrel or slide? Are they by chance rounded off or have excessive wear? If I was you, I would be very very curious to find out in details what was wrong once they figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwillis Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 hours ago, SeattleDude said: I think you will get covered and they will make it right. I was thinking about this issue and the reason why it wouldnt lock up completely on first round. Did you notice any abnormal wear on locking lugs on barrel or slide? Are they by chance rounded off or have excessive wear? If I was you, I would be very very curious to find out in details what was wrong once they figure it out. I didn’t notice abnormal wear, the gun seems to lock up tight. If I press down on the chamber the barrel doesn’t wiggle at all. When I spoke with adam yesterday he said he would be the working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Alphamikenoshoot Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Gun isn’t fully locking up when you hand cycle the rounds. Next Range trip try slamming the slide home when loading it. There are quite a few other threads about this exact “phenomenon”, provided that is what you are referring to.What he said. You’ll even have issues on first round hand racked not being close to chrono. Or being outside your normal standard deviation. And because the round isn’t seated in the chamber as if it were actually cycled in there you will have accuracy issues. Concentricity issues. I mean what’s the variable here? Hand racked. I’m not really sure why this would even matter to anyone. Like you’re not going through a stage with a bolt Gun cycling it each time. Also what’s your overall length? You could try stepping it out maybe. If you really wanna geek out you could use dykem die on a bullet. Seat it extra long on an empty case and see where it actually Engages the lands and grooves. And then back your overal length a little from there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwillis Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 22 hours ago, 2Alphamikenoshoot said: What he said. You’ll even have issues on first round hand racked not being close to chrono. Or being outside your normal standard deviation. And because the round isn’t seated in the chamber as if it were actually cycled in there you will have accuracy issues. Concentricity issues. I mean what’s the variable here? Hand racked. I’m not really sure why this would even matter to anyone. Like you’re not going through a stage with a bolt Gun cycling it each time. Also what’s your overall length? You could try stepping it out maybe. If you really wanna geek out you could use dykem die on a bullet. Seat it extra long on an empty case and see where it actually Engages the lands and grooves. And then back your overal length a little from there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1.165 is my oal, 376 crimp, 8.5gr hs6 and cci 400 primer Everglade 115gr jhp, lee undersize die, rc micro dial seating die and lee crimp die using a 650. it matters because It leads to doubt, if it’s not going into lockup on while being hand cycled how can I be certain it is on every other round? Also what if the stage is better to draw on a long shot, popper or tight shot. Adam contacted me Monday sent me shipping label within 10 min of our conversation ending. I shipped it out and he received it Wednesday so hopefully I will hear from him soon on what the issue is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Alphamikenoshoot Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1.165 is my oal, 376 crimp, 8.5gr hs6 and cci 400 primer Everglade 115gr jhp, lee undersize die, rc micro dial seating die and lee crimp die using a 650. it matters because It leads to doubt, if it’s not going into lockup on while being hand cycled how can I be certain it is on every other round? Also what if the stage is better to draw on a long shot, popper or tight shot. Adam contacted me Monday sent me shipping label within 10 min of our conversation ending. I shipped it out and he received it Wednesday so hopefully I will hear from him soon on what the issue is. If you take one shot at a time and it’s still PAO poi. Or fast doubles and it’d poi poa then there shouldn’t be any doubt. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Alphamikenoshoot Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I’m interested to see what happens here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwillis Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 5 hours ago, 2Alphamikenoshoot said: I’m interested to see what happens here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk adam just called me the gun was comp striking and I left my recoil spring to long and was getting coil bind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 So he didnt ream the comp off the start? And "coil binding" is just made up jargon smiths use to place blame on the end user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Alphamikenoshoot Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 adam just called me the gun was comp striking and I left my recoil spring to long and was getting coil bind. Was it the spring that came with it?Isn’t he using the same comps for all the KKM barrels? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwillis Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, 2Alphamikenoshoot said: Was it the spring that came with it? Isn’t he using the same comps for all the KKM barrels? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk no, I had changed the recoil spring when I first noticed the issue. I was seeing if a new spring would assist the gun into lockup and I guess I left it long. I think he uses the same comp for all kkm barrels but I’m not certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I've yet to have to cut a spring for any of my 1911/2011's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwillis Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Maximis228 said: So he didnt ream the comp off the start? And "coil binding" is just made up jargon smiths use to place blame on the end user. It appears something changed the orientation, I’m not really sure how or why it started comp striking 8k rounds in. That’s what I was told. How is coil binding placing blame on the end user? Edited January 10, 2020 by Bwillis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Alphamikenoshoot Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I've yet to have to cut a spring for any of my 1911/2011'sI literally cut all of mine [emoji23] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, Bwillis said: It appears something changed the orientation, I’m not really sure how or why it started comp striking 8k rounds in. That’s what I was told. How is coil binding placing blame on the end user? My guess is it was always bad (Never reamed)... then some comp build up causing more deflection. You only have 8K on the gun. Unless the spring snapped... nothing is going to be wrong with it. Ive got recoil springs in open guns with 50K+ on them running like a swish watch still. Cut... uncut... variable... standard... doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) The bullet striking the comp has nothing to do if it was hand racked or not. I call BS on that one. It either has baffle strikes or it doesn't. IF it really did have baffle strikes, then the comp was loose (which should have been found during the $250 "tune-up") or was not reamed properly if at all. Edited January 11, 2020 by echotango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinarel Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Baffle strikes is absolute ******it. Recoil springs do not affect the orientation of the bullet in the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY BARONE Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 If his gun is stroked it requires the spring to be cut. Only Dawsons stroked guns used uncut springs. Not going into battery hand cycling the first round is another issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer-x Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Chaos is stroked - recoil spring MUST be less than 1.370" compressed or gun will spring bind. For example, a stock Wolff 8# fixed rate spring is 38 coils and 1.520" compressed - needs coils removed to get under 1.370" compressed. A stock Wolff 8# variable rate is 1.221" compressed and works great as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiroshi Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 You should’ve take it to your local gunsmith and save shipping cost.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmella Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 20 hours ago, Bwillis said: adam just called me the gun was comp striking and I left my recoil spring to long and was getting coil bind. Did you pay shipping again to ship it back again and are you paying shipping to get it home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwillis Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Shmella said: Did you pay shipping again to ship it back again and are you paying shipping to get it home? No to both questions, I only paid the original $250 for tuneup which included shipping both ways. Edited January 11, 2020 by Bwillis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlussoro Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 What’s your load data? I had issues with different powders like CFE SIlo AA7 etc where as 3n38 is lights out accurate , also depending on what rounds you are loading from coated to JHP make a huge different as well. 8.8 to 9.1 garbage 9.3 to 9.6 decent 10.2 is dialed at 20 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwillis Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Mlussoro said: What’s your load data? I had issues with different powders like CFE SIlo AA7 etc where as 3n38 is lights out accurate , also depending on what rounds you are loading from coated to JHP make a huge different as well. 8.8 to 9.1 garbage 9.3 to 9.6 decent 10.2 is dialed at 20 yards 8.5 gr hs6 115gr Everglade v2 1.165 oal 3.76 crimp 1500 fps avg 172.5 pf lee undersize die, rcbs seating die, lee crimp die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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