firerain Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 On 10/28/2019 at 11:23 AM, Heliarclee said: Springer Precision now makes a paddle style extended mag release for the p320. Bruce Grey says that all of mag releases are interchangeable between the older grip style and the x5. out of stock right now, waiting for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 46 minutes ago, firerain said: out of stock right now, waiting for it Just make your own. Heat/anneal your stock mag release and then drill and tap it for a screw so you can mount a paddle. That’s what I did before springer released their own version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflyer51 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 The springer precision paddle style mag release is awesome . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 1:34 PM, hiflyer51 said: The springer precision paddle style mag release is awesome . I have been searching for two days but have found no clear answer.... Is this new paddle style mag release legal for Production (Carry Optics)??? Is the plain strait extended one they also make legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 ^ yes. those are now considered minor parts and can be replaced with after market ones. you still have to fit the box and be within weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 What should I consider when deciding weather to get the regular extended mag release, or the special one with the paddle. They are about the same price if you go with the steel extended release. Do they both equally increase the likelihood of a mag being released during a table start? Any other notable differences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajblack Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 I use the regular extended mag release and have no problem getting to it with my thumb, but people with smaller hands have said that it's an issue for them so they go with the paddle. Both styles of release use the factory spring and retainer, so I would think that the table start issue is the same. That being said, I've never had this table start issue although I have heard of it from others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babayaga Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I have the one with the extended button on it. Love it except for loaded table starts. I haven’t perfected what technique I’m gonna use yet. It probably doesn’t help that I have the TXG grip. Right now I just grab it like the claw that picks up stuff animals in the machines at the supermarket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I have pretty medium size hands. I checked all of my other competition guns and I have to do the little flip to rotate the gun a bit to reach the release, and it hasn't held me back much. I would still think having a little less of a reach wouldn't hurt, so I may give the one with the paddle a try if it really is production / carry optics legal. Can someone point me to documented proof of this in case I am challenged at a match, I didn't see it in the production annex section. As for table starts I was trained years ago, to first get your weak hand finger tips under the rear of the slide to start lifting it up, so you can get a good grip on the gun with your strong hand. This should logically eliminate the problem of the magazine being released at the same time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboadway Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 21.6 Exchange of minor EXTERNAL components Sights, firing pins, firing pin retainers, pins, extractors, magazine releases, slide stops, thumb safeties, triggers, hammers, bushings, and ejectors MAY be replaced with OFM or aftermarket parts. Exchange of OFM parts between different models of Production approved guns is allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 So I went with the extended paddle release for my Legion, and found out a few things. First, when swapping releases, the key to removal I found is not to use too large of a tool, it must be considerably smaller than the size of the hole, so that you can depress the detent, then pivot your tool slightly to make the detent start coming out of the release. At my first match with the gun and the new release, I found it made weak hand only shooting kind of strange, the paddle was right against the webbing of my weak hand , it didn't release unwantedly, but it made it very challenging to get a good high grip for weak hand only. Lastly, by the end of the match, (4 stages) I noticed the paddle had become loose from the release button itself! The paddle is advertised as being permanently attached, so I will have to contact Springer Precision and see what they want me to do. I'm wondering if given the chance, if I should just switch back over to the standard extended version in place of the one with the paddle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangelgt Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 hours ago, EngineerEli said: So I went with the extended paddle release for my Legion, and found out a few things. First, when swapping releases, the key to removal I found is not to use too large of a tool, it must be considerably smaller than the size of the hole, so that you can depress the detent, then pivot your tool slightly to make the detent start coming out of the release. At my first match with the gun and the new release, I found it made weak hand only shooting kind of strange, the paddle was right against the webbing of my weak hand , it didn't release unwantedly, but it made it very challenging to get a good high grip for weak hand only. Lastly, by the end of the match, (4 stages) I noticed the paddle had become loose from the release button itself! The paddle is advertised as being permanently attached, so I will have to contact Springer Precision and see what they want me to do. I'm wondering if given the chance, if I should just switch back over to the standard extended version in place of the one with the paddle... I was looking to pick up the Springer paddle, let us know what they say about it getting loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflyer51 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I have 2 of the springer extended paddles. Dry fire and /or shoot everyday for a month now with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClangClang Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Anyone try the regular extended release and then decide they still needed the extra length of the paddle? I'm looking to try the standard profile extended version. Figure it's worth checking here before ordering direct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflyer51 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I had the regular springer extended mag release prior to the springer paddle extended mag release. The paddle mag release is not longer, it just extends to the rear of the gun making it easier for me to release the mag without hardly breaking my grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboadway Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 18 hours ago, ClangClang said: Anyone try the regular extended release and then decide they still needed the extra length of the paddle? I'm looking to try the standard profile extended version. Figure it's worth checking here before ordering direct. PM’ed you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I ended up reaching out to Springer Precision, they were prompt to respond, and sent me out a replacement no questions asked. The new one seems good to go for now, I have a match Wednesday to put it to the test. The one I took off, that came loose, looked like there was no thread locker on the threads, so maybe they just missed it on one piece or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Paddle release is much easier to reach. Put on grip tape too to test the idea of silicon carbide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirectDrive Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 2 hours ago, zhunter said: Paddle release is much easier to reach. Put on grip tape too to test the idea of silicon carbide. Very nice tape job ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 29 minutes ago, DirectDrive said: Very nice tape job ! Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.45 ACP nut Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I have found that a .028 hex wrench is just the ticket for removing the magazine catch stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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