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EngineerEli

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  1. I ended up giving this one a try, and it actually fits perfectly! Not sure if that is a part that can still be purchased or if that number on the sticker is the actual part number. But the actual part in this photo, does fit in and function well in my Jericho 941.
  2. Update! I ended up giving the double sided EAA safety a try that Kneelingatlas offered up, it seemed to be the only one who's measurements checked out. Ended up fitting perfectly. I though I may have had to fit the sear spring leg retaining slot in the safety shaft, but it seemed to fit just right. I of course had to stone the sear safety lobe a little but that is expected. I'll try to post some photos when I get a chance. @kneelingatlas Thanks for helping me out with this safety!
  3. The parts we are looking for, do not have the small round captured detent as you show. It has a bore for a spring, and a little round nub for the 'tombstone' piece to press against.
  4. I posted some additional measurements in my other topic. Determined the current polymer one is too wide. The one kneelingatlas had looks like it should fit, so I'm going to give that one a try. I'll report back results.
  5. So I have a few findings to report. Another member here did me the favor of measure the width of his polymer frame and it is 1.105". Unfortunately this doesn't match my 941. The measurements I took off it this morning on my Jericho are; Frame width: 1.008" Safety Shaft dia: 0.157" Safety 'Hub' dia: 0.313" I'm also being told that the much older Tanfoglio steel framed safeties are compatible. Frame width is 0.998 and shaft dia is 0.156". Also looks like there is the possibility for the pre B CZ 75 safeties (single sided) at least to be compatible... http://apexgunsmithing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/DSC02945.jpg http://apexgunsmithing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/DSC02946-768x431.jpg
  6. I felt bad taking over someone else's topic, so I created my own...
  7. I picked up one of the recent surplus Jericho 941F (Frame Safety full size 4.5 barrel) with HC finish. I have been watching for one of these for a while and when these showed up, and with the cool star emblem on engraved on the frame, I decided to pull the trigger. What can I say, these pistols are just plain cool, and supposedly shoot fantastic. I plan on just using this as a range gun, maybe a HD pistol if it proves to be reliable, which it should. I have been experimenting with compatibility and have posted a bit on someone else's topic, but I decided I would create my own. My preliminary research showed that these pistols are basically the same internally as older Tanfoglio witness pistols all except for the grips, and the hammer strut/spring which are the longer CZ design. So far I have successfully converted it from SA as it was purchased, and designated by the Israeli police force, to DA/SA. I was able to swap out the stock safety and add in the disconnector I had lying around from my Stock 2. It does function, but the hammer does not come all the way back in DA so a live fire test at the range will verify if it works acceptably or if it will need some more experimentation. The next thing I want to try, is to find a replacement safety lever, with a thumb ledge that is parallel to the barrel as all my other Tanfoglios are. I saw some 941s posted on GB that had these type of safeties so I know it is possible. I don't like the upward angled safety. These guns use the little tombstone shaped steel plate that nests into a pocket in the frame. It sounds like it MAY be compatible with very old Tanfoglio safeties, or possibly the polymer Tanfoglios even manufactured today. I am still trying to verify this and have not yet ordered any parts. If anyone can verify any of my suspicions about these safeties, please post here.
  8. I did find this which seems like my best bet yet. Would you be able to measure the width of your frame where the safety crosses through? https://eaacorp.com/store/shop-full-width/parts/safety/polymer-ambi-safety-102085/
  9. I'd be very surprised if the split type would work. I was expecting a pinned right side safety. Or, honestly I don't even need ambi, just a left side safety would be fine for me. They key is the inside surface of the left hand safety paddle. Does it have the stubby little cylinder for the detent plate like in the photos above?
  10. I'm looking for a complete safety lever. But now I wonder of the omega safety could work? Definitely not what is shown in my photos tough...
  11. I ride the safety on almost all my guns, so I would like to have the functional safety there with a ledge I can rest my thumb on. I also would prefer to not cut on any of the original parts in case I want to put it all back to stock one day. It's sort of both a fun collector item for me, but also a range toy, maybe HD gun. This is what the Jericho 941 Safety looks like. My previous pictures prove it is possible, just have to figure out which part...
  12. I know I'm bringing this back from the dead, but did you by chance find these parts, or a complete replacement safety? I just picked up a old surplus Jericho 941, and I want to swap out the safety to something where the tab is parallel with the barrel instead of angled up, it throws off my grip. I have found that the safety looks in my gun looks just like the one in your photo with the little spring and steel tab/detent thingy. I know it is possible because I noticed these Jericho 941's for sale on GB...
  13. Its becoming apparent that no one really cares about this, but I don't care, LOL. I realized that once changing over to the larger spring either actual Beretta or in my case Tanfoglio (EAA) there is no reason not to just use the plain old steel option guide rod for the 92. I picked up a cheap one for $10 off eBay, and reduced the head diameter so it would fit into the 92FSR frame. I found that the end still stuck out the end of the slide a little more than I liked so I shortened it from the head end to maintain the black finish on the end and to increase the the effective locked breech spring length, it took the removal of about 1mm of thickness. I also ended up trimming off 1.5 coils from the Tanfoglio (EAA) spring I mentioned above and the gun seems to lock back on empty reliably with the CCI Quiet-22 Semi-Auto ammo I've been using, its pretty weak stuff. It fits perfect, cycles great, adds a little weight, and I'm happy. I'll probably keep it like this going foreword.
  14. Another interesting development, I've found that an Wolf 8 lb recoil spring from a Tanfoglio / EAA Stock II (Full Size, not long slide) fits and cycles very similarly to the original one. It gives the same occasional failure to lock back but never has FTE's with the relatively weak CCI Quiet SA ammo I'm using, it may also break in... The cut down because of the thick wire, and reduced number of coils had a very steep tension curve, but this new 8 lb one, is much more linear. I do disclose that other recoil springs from the same gun, with higher weight ratings, fit too tightly on the guide rod, so I can't make any guarantees...
  15. Well it can be made to fit... Turns out the guide rod is aluminum. They do advertise it as 'metal'. The cup at the end that captures the spring is just retained with a little c shaped clip that goes in a groove on the guide rod, but with the clip in place it would not fit through the hole on my .22 slide, so I'm not using it captured. The dia of the head was too big, so I reduced it a bit so it would fit. The shaft dia is too big for the .22 spring, so I started cutting coils off the one that came with the captured guide rod and was actually able to get it to cycle pretty well! Pics to come...
  16. As I should have known, I got impatient and ordered the Steel captured guide rod from Beretta, it was only $18 shipped so it will be fun to mess with while I'm stuck at home, but I just got a response from Brownells today saying the dimensions of the part are: OD Major: 0.410” OD Minor: 0.292” The 92-22 dimensions I measured are: OD Major (Head that sits against take down leaver): 0.372" OD Minor (Shaft Diameter): 0.236" (ID of recoil spring): 0.290" I can potentially reduce the head diameter. But I doubt I'm going to be able to reduce the minor OD without a lathe... I wonder if I could get a low weight 9mm recoil spring, like a 9lb, and clip a few coils to get the .22 to cycle with it?
  17. Just for fun, this is what I'm talking about
  18. I just got a rimfire Beretta, 92FSR, and for fun, I'm seeing what other real steel Beretta parts will fit on it to improve it. It is said to be a full size replica of the 92, and I've already put a "D" main spring in it, and put some aftermarket G10 grips on it. My rimfire one has a captured guide rod/recoil spring, and the 92A1 and m9A1 have one that looks very similar, before I spend the money on one, I was hoping someone out there with either of these guns could go and measure the diameter where the spring rides and the head diameter that seats in the frame against the take down lever. Aftermarket steel captured guide rod for the 92A1 I'm hoping to try out in my rimfire gun: Thanks, -Eli
  19. Unfortunately I didn't make any notes and I don't remember exactly. To the best of my recollection, it was something like a 3/8 end mill at 1180 rpm. After my "machining" I did go back through with 220 sandpaper to get the remaining shape how I wanted it, then worked up to 320 then 600. (maybe 1500 don't remember) then I did actually use some mothers mag and aluminum polish on it, just by hand with a paper towel after. That helped to get it to the final finish. One note I would advise people though, is to not remove too much material from the back underside of the beaver tail. I did thinking I wanted to make it look more like a 1911 style one, but now the back quarter or so if it doesn't even make contact with my hand, so I wish I would have left a little more meat there...
  20. I ended up reaching out to Springer Precision, they were prompt to respond, and sent me out a replacement no questions asked. The new one seems good to go for now, I have a match Wednesday to put it to the test. The one I took off, that came loose, looked like there was no thread locker on the threads, so maybe they just missed it on one piece or something...
  21. So I went with the extended paddle release for my Legion, and found out a few things. First, when swapping releases, the key to removal I found is not to use too large of a tool, it must be considerably smaller than the size of the hole, so that you can depress the detent, then pivot your tool slightly to make the detent start coming out of the release. At my first match with the gun and the new release, I found it made weak hand only shooting kind of strange, the paddle was right against the webbing of my weak hand , it didn't release unwantedly, but it made it very challenging to get a good high grip for weak hand only. Lastly, by the end of the match, (4 stages) I noticed the paddle had become loose from the release button itself! The paddle is advertised as being permanently attached, so I will have to contact Springer Precision and see what they want me to do. I'm wondering if given the chance, if I should just switch back over to the standard extended version in place of the one with the paddle...
  22. I have pretty medium size hands. I checked all of my other competition guns and I have to do the little flip to rotate the gun a bit to reach the release, and it hasn't held me back much. I would still think having a little less of a reach wouldn't hurt, so I may give the one with the paddle a try if it really is production / carry optics legal. Can someone point me to documented proof of this in case I am challenged at a match, I didn't see it in the production annex section. As for table starts I was trained years ago, to first get your weak hand finger tips under the rear of the slide to start lifting it up, so you can get a good grip on the gun with your strong hand. This should logically eliminate the problem of the magazine being released at the same time...
  23. What should I consider when deciding weather to get the regular extended mag release, or the special one with the paddle. They are about the same price if you go with the steel extended release. Do they both equally increase the likelihood of a mag being released during a table start? Any other notable differences?
  24. I have been searching for two days but have found no clear answer.... Is this new paddle style mag release legal for Production (Carry Optics)??? Is the plain strait extended one they also make legal?
  25. I read somewhere that it was to break up the gun visually and make the bore axis appear lower... Could be wrong though...
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