Jim Watson Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I operate my 1050 standing for .45 only. Fine machine, plenty high production rate, but my arthritic knees are objecting. I operate my 550 sitting for 9mm and .38. More comfortable, but it could stand to be more mechanized. Question: Is the 650 easy to operate while sitting? As easy as 550? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonandMichelle Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I’d be interested to know! I’ve frankly just always been a stander. In my head the travel is such that it would be easier to stand. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipdynamite Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I'm halfway between both with a photographers stool, but will stand too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwikel Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I have my bench height set up to stand to operate my 650 but I have a lean against seat I use for long loading sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejb Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Sitting for me when I run my 650XL. I can't imagine why one would want to stand to load when sitting is such an easy option. I can't see any advantage to standing personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, jejb said: Sitting for me when I run my 650XL. I can't imagine why one would want to stand to load when sitting is such an easy option. I can't see any advantage to standing personally. Just like nearly every “new” subject brought up this has been discussed before. I think the majority stand while reloading if I recall. Pretty easy to do a search for all the pros and cons. Much easier for me to stand so I can keep bullet feeder full, primers full, case feeder full etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 24 minutes ago, jejb said: I can't see any advantage to standing personally. I find it easier to seat primers as I kind of lean into it while I'm pushing the handle back up. It's also easier for me to verify the powder drop in each case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonandMichelle Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I find it easier to seat primers as I kind of lean into it while I'm pushing the handle back up. It's also easier for me to verify the powder drop in each case.I think this is exactly why I stand. The case feeder is automated and setting bullets is easy, but consistent force to seating primers and leaning in to check powder is just easier for me when standing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgh Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 26 minutes ago, jhgtyre said: I find it easier to seat primers as I kind of lean into it while I'm pushing the handle back up. It's also easier for me to verify the powder drop in each case. Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Scott Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Jim Watson said: Question: Is the 650 easy to operate while sitting? As easy as 550? I have both side by side on a bench with the handles(roller) at nearly the same height. I sit to load and find barely any difference in ease of operation between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwikel Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) Unless your bench height is pretty low I do not see how you could work at a correct ergonomic height if your press has a strong mount and you sit to load. Edited November 20, 2018 by bwikel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I am at slightly less than a stand.. Have a stool with an old bass boat seat attached to it,, Kinda a lean/stand/sit type of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesedTech Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, jejb said: Sitting for me when I run my 650XL. I can't imagine why one would want to stand to load when sitting is such an easy option. I can't see any advantage to standing personally. Standing while reloading completes my Apple Watch daily standing goals. Who knew that reloading ammo was considered “healthy.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I recall a story about Brian back in the day. One of the Dillons asked him to accept a challenge on reloading against a different type of press. As I remember it, Brian slipped in some ear plugs, turned on the tunes and sat down at his press. I think it was a 550. He started happily cranking away. I like to stand for short reloading sessions and sit for marathons. My marathons have gotten a bit shorter now that I have a 650 with MBF and case feeder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonandMichelle Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I recall a story about Brian back in the day. One of the Dillons asked him to accept a challenge on reloading against a different type of press. As I remember it, Brian slipped in some ear plugs, turned on the tunes and sat down at his press. I think it was a 550. He started happily cranking away. I like to stand for short reloading sessions and sit for marathons. My marathons have gotten a bit shorter now that I have a 650 with MBF and case feeder. [emoji3]That’s a cool story. I’d love to know the details. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJacot Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I've been sitting while loading on my 650 for 25+ years. 9mm and 223 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejb Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 5 hours ago, jhgtyre said: I find it easier to seat primers as I kind of lean into it while I'm pushing the handle back up. It's also easier for me to verify the powder drop in each case. I'm a bigger guy in good shape, so seating the primers while sitting has not been an issue. But I guess I could see that being an issue for some folks. I use an RCBS powder check die, so no worries there, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejb Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Sarge said: Much easier for me to stand so I can keep bullet feeder full, primers full, case feeder full etc. I'd never even thought about the case feeder. I do not have a strong mount under my 650. I'm 6'2" and have to stretch a little to see down into the case feeder hopper. How do you guys with strong mounts check the level in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonandMichelle Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I'd never even thought about the case feeder. I do not have a strong mount under my 650. I'm 6'2" and have to stretch a little to see down into the case feeder hopper. How do you guys with strong mounts check the level in there?When it’s empty I put more in! Ha! I count rounds by primers, so extras in the CF don’t bother me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I'm 6'5" and it's easier for me to stand. I had a high back bar stool and tried sitting. It just didn't feel right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, jejb said: I'd never even thought about the case feeder. I do not have a strong mount under my 650. I'm 6'2" and have to stretch a little to see down into the case feeder hopper. How do you guys with strong mounts check the level in there? Mirror on ceiling above casefeeder and bullet feeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 6 hours ago, JasonandMichelle said: That’s a cool story. I’d love to know the details. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Finally found the original story...now that I reread it, I can't tell if Brian was sitting or not. I always just assumed that he was. Maybe Brian can chime in and answer that question. https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/140809-1983-ad-for-450/?t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Scott Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Sarge said: Mirror on ceiling above casefeeder and bullet feeder This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 I know the case feeder hopper is empty when it quits filling up the drop tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwikel Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 19 hours ago, Sarge said: Mirror on ceiling above casefeeder and bullet feeder I also use a mirror on the ceiling above my bullet and case feeder to keep an eye on fill rate. When they get low I fill them when I refill primers to prevent extra stops while loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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