orangeride Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I load on two different 650’s. Both of them bounce spent primers out of the catch can (I’m guessing) and make a big mess in my room. I’d say about 5-10% go astray. I’ve tried emptying in more often but doesn’t help. What have you guys done ?reloading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonandMichelle Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I loaded about 1000 9mm and 45 on Friday. Had the exact same issue. I’m in to hear about what others think. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
223to45 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Search Spent Primer Upgrade on ebay.Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Original-Dillon-XL-650-Spent-Primer-Catcher-Upgrade/272396247175?epid=520189869&hash=item3f6c14e087:g:ukIAAMXQjq5Q9we1 The hose on this one doesnt kink if you route it so it has a full twist and the right amount of slack. The one I bought before it that routed down through the table always ended up kinking and clogging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeride Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 Perfect. That’s what I’m looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonandMichelle Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Is there a way to do it without buying that?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesedTech Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 3 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said: https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Original-Dillon-XL-650-Spent-Primer-Catcher-Upgrade/272396247175?epid=520189869&hash=item3f6c14e087:g:ukIAAMXQjq5Q9we1 The hose on this one doesnt kink if you route it so it has a full twist and the right amount of slack. The one I bought before it that routed down through the table always ended up kinking and clogging. ^^^^ This is the best way to go. Spent primers will always bounce a few out of the factory tray. I would also upgrade to this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Original-Dillon-XL-650-Missed-LIVE-Primer-Chute-Ski-Jump-Fix-Upgrade-BLUE/272968060181?hash=item3f8e2a0d15:g:gI0AAOSwNSxU3qak:sc:USPSFirstClass!80031!US!-1 I love the gadget part of this hobby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, HesedTech said: I would also upgrade to this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Original-Dillon-XL-650-Missed-LIVE-Primer-Chute-Ski-Jump-Fix-Upgrade-BLUE/272968060181?hash=item3f8e2a0d15:g:gI0AAOSwNSxU3qak:sc:USPSFirstClass!80031!US!-1 I love the gadget part of this hobby! Unnecessary. If you run a 650 correctly you might as well remove the ramp. (1) keep a box of a few dozen sized and deprimed cases next to the press. If you pitch a torn case out of the shellplate, put one of those in the second station when needed so you don’t have an empty shellplate, and it won’t spit out a primer. OR (2) Learn to lift the primer ratcheting arm as you raise the shellplate: Each time you cycle the press a chrome metal arm hits a black ramp on the press frame, indexing the next primer. If you lift that arm upward with a fingertip as your shellplate moves upward, it won’t feed the next primer... it’ll use that same primer on the downstroke after the next case is presented to it. I never had any widgets on the ski jump. I never had primers on it, either. Learn how the press works. Best option: (3) Upgrade to a 1050. It’ll continue to present the same primer for 100+ press cycles until a case arrives and finally takes it. Then it’ll feed the next one. Edited November 19, 2018 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesedTech Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said: Unnecessary. If you run a 650 correctly you might as well remove the ramp. (1) keep a box of a few dozen sized and deprimed cases next to the press. If you pitch a torn case out of the shellplate, put one of those in the second station when needed so you don’t have an empty shellplate, and it won’t spit out a primer. OR (2) Learn to lift the primer ratcheting arm as you raise the shellplate: Each time you cycle the press a chrome metal arm hits a black ramp on the press frame, indexing the next primer. If you lift that arm upward with a fingertip as your shellplate moves upward, it won’t feed the next primer... it’ll use that same primer on the downstroke after the next case is presented to it. I never had any widgets on the ski jump. I never had primers on it, either. Learn how the press works. Best option: (3) Upgrade to a 1050. It’ll continue to present the same primer for 100+ press cycles until a case arrives and finally takes it. Then it’ll feed the next one. Dude I love your Tanfoglio tuning info and most of your comments, but this is a bit harsh! While I’m sure I haven’t loaded as much ammo as you have on my 650, I am at the 30k mark now, so I think I’ve got a working process. This is is a hobby and these gadgets are what makes it both fun and interesting, so the comment about learning how the press works needs to be toned down a bit. BTW I did purchase a 1050 and had I know what I know now would have skipped the 650. Edited November 19, 2018 by HesedTech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock021 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Lay a 9mm or 380 case on the missed primer ramp. Works as well as any aftermarket add on. For the spent primer side I fabricated a funnel out of a piece of copper HVAC tubing. Slipped a tube over the funnel and ran it down and back behind the bench to a bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 3 hours ago, HesedTech said: BTW I did purchase a 1050 and had I know what I know now would have skipped the 650. Same here. Very much I would have saved up, or sold the neighbor’s children, and went directly to a 1050. 2 hours ago, Glock021 said: Lay a 9mm or 380 case on the missed primer ramp. Works as well as any aftermarket add on. Oh. Wow. That was obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejb Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Is there a method to solve this w/o having to use a remote catch container? I'd like to keep using the Dillon catch bin, if at all possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcePrater Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 First post - lurker no longer. Call me cheap but these work great. Spent primer chute - 44 mag (rimmed case) with the primer/case head drilled/honed out in place of the tray (case mouth pointed to the floor). Then PVC tube over the mouth of the case, run it to your 20. oz bottle or whatever. Live primer chute - 12 gauge shell, cut a vertical slit down to the brass, then trim it down a bit (so that the lever just barely clears it). Slide it over the spent primer chute and it will catch up to about 50 or 60 before overflow. Can provide pics if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesedTech Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, jejb said: Is there a method to solve this w/o having to use a remote catch container? I'd like to keep using the Dillon catch bin, if at all possible. While I never tried this, often times putting a thin piece of foam cushion in the bottom of containers stops the bounce when objects are dropped in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I had a local friend 3D print a larger, deeper unit just like the original. Perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 4 hours ago, jejb said: Is there a method to solve this w/o having to use a remote catch container? I'd like to keep using the Dillon catch bin, if at all possible. Put some tape around the top of the tray around three sides. Let it stick up a bit and fill the gap. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handloader109 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Eazy. Almost free. Take 45LC case or even 357mag will work. Drill it out as large as you can. Remove old blue cup, and you can slide the case into the black bracket. Foot or so of tubing the diameter of the case and slide onto the case. Other end in plastic container. Easy peasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonandMichelle Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Eazy. Almost free. Take 45LC case or even 357mag will work. Drill it out as large as you can. Remove old blue cup, and you can slide the case into the black bracket. Foot or so of tubing the diameter of the case and slide onto the case. Other end in plastic container. Easy peasy Sweet! I’ll give this a shot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
858 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 You can build up the spend primer container with masking tape and the primers stop falling out. Entirely Crimson makes a very nice replacement live primer chute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I made mine out of a 50AE case, drilled out the bottom and used a hacksaw to cut a couple of slots in the extractor groove, attached a clear vinyl tube that empties into a old powder jug on the floor that I drilled a half inch hole in the lid for the tube i have no idea how many spent primers are in there, but it weighs around 3-4 lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 There must be a million threads on this, did you try searching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 On 11/19/2018 at 6:57 PM, zombywoof said: Put some tape around the top of the tray around three sides. Let it stick up a bit and fill the gap. Problem solved. Exactly what I did. Put a piece of blue painters tape around the live primer chute making the catch tray a little deeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejb Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 11/19/2018 at 5:57 PM, zombywoof said: Put some tape around the top of the tray around three sides. Let it stick up a bit and fill the gap. Problem solved. Thanks. I did that, and so far, so good. Couple of inches of Gorilla tape to fix this issue seems like a no brainer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anbrumm Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I used a 38 case slit and opened up a little bit. Drilled out the primer hole to allow small and large primers to flow through. Added a hose that was a tight fit and a hose clamp to it. Runs into a bucket. There is a kit available, but if you have the 38 case you can make it for less than $5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANFARM Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Spent primer adapter with hose. Gallon plastic jug under the bench ...works great...amazing when it fills up...that’s a ton o’ spent s!primer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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