Judo Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 130 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuey Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I am for 130 in all of my Pistols. This makes things simpler and consistent.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliYeti Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 132 seems to be the number that works best for me. Never have had issues with steel, accuracy is great and it feels good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) Whatever gives good accuracy and impeccable reliabilty. Super super soft ammo is overrated. I stagger-loaded a magazine with titegroup/147/130pf ammo and 124/primaV/138pf ammo. You could not feel the difference in recoil. Load accurate bullets well above PF for steel and the like, shoot them, and enjoy being worry free. Edited July 31, 2018 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, MemphisMechanic said: The power factor number is overrated. It is in competition. Go under and you are DQ'd or at best, shooting for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, RePete said: It is in competition. Go under and you are DQ'd or at best, shooting for fun. You might want to read my entire post. (Which I just edited for clarity.) It was a headshake at those who skirt PF. I shoot a lot of matches. At 135-137. With ammo that gives up nothing to the guys who skirt 126.25pf with their 147s. Edited July 31, 2018 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 49 minutes ago, RePete said: It is in competition. Go under and you are DQ'd or at best, shooting for fun. DQ’d? I didn’t know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Sarge said: DQ’d? I didn’t know that. 1.2.3.4 - Unsporstmanlike Gaming. Edited July 31, 2018 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sweatpants Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I feel comfortable at approximately ~130 PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 On 7/30/2018 at 3:41 PM, RePete said: Why bother to make the PF change for production? Why not just stick with 135 then there won't be a problem that is possible with two different ammo's. Forgot to add that I use 125's in Production at around 132-135pf, and 115's in PCC. The 115's are too snappy out of a pistol for me but run the PCC great. Tried 125's, 135 and 147's in the PCC and the 115's feel the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddjob Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) On 7/31/2018 at 8:19 AM, MemphisMechanic said: Whatever gives good accuracy and impeccable reliabilty. Super super soft ammo is overrated. I stagger-loaded a magazine with titegroup/147/130pf ammo and 124/primaV/138pf ammo. You could not feel the difference in recoil. Load accurate bullets well above PF for steel and the like, shoot them, and enjoy being worry free. This is what my feelings are.... I load to a 133. I use 124 Bayou and Vectan 9.5. I feel its more important to get used to the timing of your load in your gun rather than the "softness". Edited August 2, 2018 by oddjob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gunDQ Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDescribe Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 We see a lot people's chrono results here and in other similar forums, extreme spreads of 30+ with mixed brass are common. It's not rare to see people report 50+. An extreme spread of 8 is worth 1PF with 124/125gr bullets, and 7 feet/sec is 1PF with 147gr bullets. So an ES of just 30 is worth a PF spread of about 4. People should keep that in mind when they start to get it in their head that they like a particular PF because the truth is that they experience PF swings of at least 3 or 4, if not 5 or 6 or 7, from one round to the next, and they never notice in practice. In other words, a PF of 130 is more than likely a PF of 128-132 (or even broader), and if with the same powder and bullet, you think you can tell the difference in feel between Load A with a PF range of 128-132 and Load B with a PF range 130-134, you're nuts - - they overlap. And if you're giving up accuracy to chase that average PF load of 130 because you've convinced yourself that the extra one or two tenths of a grain of powder that knocks it up to an average PF of 132 or 134 is going to impact your times... If that's the case, the action shooting internet hive mind has played a terrible trick on you. When you think about this stuff, always remember that there are guys at your matches shooting .40 major at PF170+ and killing you on splits. Recoil control is about grip and stance., not shaving off a few measly foot-pounds at the muzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 @IDescribe stop making things simple and sensible. That takes all the fun away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Factory, in all my guns. So I guess 130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 130-135 Depending on group size, reliability, std Deviation and feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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