BGREID Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 So how often do you replace magazine springs in your STI mags? I have been getting some FTF in a gun that has been very reliable for 5 years. I have changed the recoil spring and the problem persists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBunniFuFu Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 When they start giving me issues I change the springs. That or a few weeks before nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGREID Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) When they start giving me issues I change the springs. That or a few weeks before nationals. What are the issues you get from weak magazine springs? Edited July 6, 2016 by BGREID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaGunner Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Normally change mine every 1-2 years or if one is jamming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 When they start giving me issues I change the springs. That or a few weeks before nationals.What are the issues you get from weak magazine springs?Imbalance in slide speed and round presentation from the magazine. The first sign of worn/weak mag springs is typically FTL and/or jams involving the last few rounds in the magazine. When you start getting these failures...take note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGREID Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 When they start giving me issues I change the springs. That or a few weeks before nationals.What are the issues you get from weak magazine springs?Imbalance in slide speed and round presentation from the magazine. The first sign of worn/weak mag springs is typically FTL and/or jams involving the last few rounds in the magazine. When you start getting these failures...take note. Sounds like what I am experiencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGREID Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 What springs do you recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiden Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 What springs are you currently running? If you're pairing springs/followers/basepads, I wouldn't change the formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Would random stove piping be a result of weak springs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGREID Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 What springs are you currently running? If you're pairing springs/followers/basepads, I wouldn't change the formula. Stock STI, Dawson basepads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamilton Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I am very interested in this as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBunniFuFu Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 When they start giving me issues I change the springs. That or a few weeks before nationals.What are the issues you get from weak magazine springs?Imbalance in slide speed and round presentation from the magazine. The first sign of worn/weak mag springs is typically FTL and/or jams involving the last few rounds in the magazine. When you start getting these failures...take note. Pretty much what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Springs are one of the cheapest replacement parts out there. Why on earth wouldn't you proactively replace them every 3 - 6 months just to be safe? You can use components to failure and throw away a match because of it, or you can proactively replace parts to keep your guns and gear running 100% reliable. I probably replaced and thrown away more magazine springs in a single year than most shooters do in 10 years. Some people may think this is excessive, but those same people also wonder why my gun magically never jams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 yes, buy the ismi/wolf/grams springs in the 10 packs. change them twice a year and you'll never have an issue. they are not that much $$ that it's worth scrimping on. mags and ammo cause probably 90% of malfuctions on competition guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I load a handful of rounds in the mag and strip them off with my thumb. If the next round doesn't pop up immediately, its time to change the springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxj66 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I have practice mags I use all the time and match mags, What I do is when the practice mags look to need springs I just swap the match mag springs in and put new springs in the match mags. I do it this way to make sure they are always fresh in the match mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBunniFuFu Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I have practice mags I use all the time and match mags, What I do is when the practice mags look to need springs I just swap the match mag springs in and put new springs in the match mags. I do it this way to make sure they are always fresh in the match mags. This is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyN9 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 What other springs can you run in MBX tubes besides theirs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Grams springs and followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bokbok_05 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I currently using grams spring and followers and JR base pads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccurdy53 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) On August 8, 2016 at 5:18 PM, CHA-LEE said: Springs are one of the cheapest replacement parts out there. Why on earth wouldn't you proactively replace them every 3 - 6 months just to be safe? You can use components to failure and throw away a match because of it, or you can proactively replace parts to keep your guns and gear running 100% reliable. I probably replaced and thrown away more magazine springs in a single year than most shooters do in 10 years. Some people may think this is excessive, but those same people also wonder why my gun magically never jams. On August 8, 2016 at 11:03 PM, BeerBaron said: yes, buy the ismi/wolf/grams springs in the 10 packs. change them twice a year and you'll never have an issue. they are not that much $$ that it's worth scrimping on. mags and ammo cause probably 90% of malfuctions on competition guns. You guys should keep in mind that some of us shoot for the enjoyment of the sport/game, realize that we will never win a match and need to cut costs where ever we can. Changing mag springs every 3-6 months without regard for use is like changing the oil in your car every 3 months when you only drive 100 miles a week. I change mag springs when I begin to experience failures. Edited August 28, 2016 by mccurdy53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, mccurdy53 said: You guys should keep in mind that some of us shoot for the enjoyment of the sport/game, realize that we will never win a match and need to cut costs where ever we can. Changing mag springs every 3-6 months without regard for use is like changing the oil in your car every 3 months when you only drive 100 miles a week. I change mag springs when I begin to experience failures. Who wants to experience failures, even when shooting for fun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I shoot for fun too and will likely never win a major match unless a bout of uncontrollable diarrhea sweeps through the super squad. However malfs just aren't any fun to me. I can appreciate having to be careful with funds too but I spend way more on other aspects and most of all I 'spend' time. A 10 pack of wolf 2011 mag springs is $47, grams $55 ismi or Taran around $80. That's not too bad for a year or more of service. using your engine oil analogy changing mag springs once or twice a year (ftr I mean 6mth or 12mth intervals) is like scheduled servicing. Waiting for malfs to let you know it's time to change is a bit like waiting for the low oil pressure alarm or an engine issue to tell you when to change oil. i can understand being on a budget and if I couldn't justify the cost to keep a 2011 running malf free I'd probably switch to a more affordable platform. anyway we each make whatever compromises we have to so that we can enjoy our sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 If the cost of a 10 pack of springs per year is unreasonable then you are participating in the wrong hobby. Let's put this into perspective. A 10 pack of springs costs less than a 1k box of the cheapest bullets. Whining about the cost of springs it ridiculous. Especially when it keeps your gun running reliably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 22 hours ago, mccurdy53 said: You guys should keep in mind that some of us shoot for the enjoyment of the sport/game, realize that we will never win a match and need to cut costs where ever we can. Changing mag springs every 3-6 months without regard for use is like changing the oil in your car every 3 months when you only drive 100 miles a week. I change mag springs when I begin to experience failures. When you go to buy springs, Bill, let me know. I can probably help you out a little through one of our mutual friends. I pretty much use Wolff Springs only and buy by the 10 pack for my pistols. I now shoot with my carry gun, when I shoot and always make sure mags perform with no problems. I also date the mags with a sharpie with date the spring was changed so I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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