Blueridge Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) I am primarily a revolver competitor. I like seeing the variety of divisions and equipment that people use for them. I supported the change to allow revolver division to allow 8 shot revolvers, although I have no current intention (unless maybe I come by an 8 shot revolver by way of a gift) of shooting the division with an 8 shot. I am however considering getting a Ruger Redhawk 45 ACP/45 Colt (but that is beside the point). I think that CO would be a welcome division to USPSA, and would give shooters who were interested another avenue to pursue and try to master. I myself still have my focus on improving my ability in revolver division, and if I were to decide to shoot an auto it would probably be a single stack. I hope that the division get approved (and the weight issue changed if it needs to be for the sake of the division), and look forward to seeing the variety (or lack thereof) that the participants in the division use. Edited October 13, 2015 by Blueridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walküre Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 ...maybe convince them to move to Open... I often see thoughts along these lines this stated. (And with the "WO" comments and all...) As if CO is only a "newbies" division or something, or that it is somehow super cheap to enter, or doesn't attract those of us who already shoot Open. All of which is completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 ...maybe convince them to move to Open... I often see thoughts along these lines this stated. (And with the "WO" comments and all...) As if CO is only a "newbies" division or something, or that it is somehow super cheap to enter, or doesn't attract those of us who already shoot Open. All of which is completely wrong. Agreed. Just like Production is not a gateway to Limited. I have been there and done that with Open. It's just not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dog Howie Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I have shot two local matches with my CO/ P09.The scoring has not caught up as of yet so I get scored Open/Minor,but that's ok. I am looking forward to shooting this Division full time,love my P09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutr Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I have now shot 3 matches in the CO division and love it. Coming from Open, its quite a challenge with only 10 rds in a mag and no comp. All new strategy shooting stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckley Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I am looking forward to shooting Carry Optics. I don't have a pistol set up yet but hope to clear that hurdle over the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgt Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I have shot two local matches with my CO/ P09.The scoring has not caught up as of yet so I get scored Open/Minor,but that's ok. I am looking forward to shooting this Division full time,love my P09 That's too bad - wonder what that club is waiting for? I think our guys just flipped a switch in practicscore to add it, we've had last 4 matches where it was an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortBus Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I haven't read through this hole post but I signed up for carry optics for my last match and then switched to open after I found the 10 round limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Since I have the dumb CA DOJ pistol roster to deal with I went the cheap route and just added a dovetail sight base to my old Glock 34 I used in IDPA SSP and will mount a Trijicon RMR I was given on the pistol this Friday. Will probably shoot it in some generic 'action pistol' matches a bit first to see how I feel about it. Maybe an all steel match we have locally. But I'm happy to have the diversion from Production and can't wait to report back my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Anyone else care to vote in this poll before the BoD votes on things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinsr98 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I will shoot it if they let you load up your mags or maybe a 15/16 round limit. If they keep it as a 10 round limit, probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ormondopen Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) shot a couple of matches and like it. not sure why there is a weight limit restriction unless the "plastic" gun manuf. were the driving force behind it. My .02 is it should have been called production optics and all the same rules apply as production except the addition of a slide mounted optic, maybe then the mag. capacity complaint wouldnt be an issue then. Edited January 6, 2016 by ormondopen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneBray Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Re comment on 15 rnd vs 10. With 15 you now have to have 2 divisions: one with 15 and one with 10. Otherwise, states with 10 capacity restrictions are left out. Might not be a bad idea to do that. Then maybe people would start voting the idiots out of office and start doing away with stupid laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerba Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Re comment on 15 rnd vs 10. With 15 you now have to have 2 divisions: one with 15 and one with 10. Otherwise, states with 10 capacity restrictions are left out. Might not be a bad idea to do that. Then maybe people would start voting the idiots out of office and start doing away with stupid laws. no, states with 10 round capacity restriction will just go to 10 rounds. there's already a rule for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmca Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Re comment on 15 rnd vs 10. With 15 you now have to have 2 divisions: one with 15 and one with 10. Otherwise, states with 10 capacity restrictions are left out. Might not be a bad idea to do that. Then maybe people would start voting the idiots out of office and start doing away with stupid laws. no, states with 10 round capacity restriction will just go to 10 rounds. there's already a rule for that. Except that won't work where grandfathered magazines are allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Re comment on 15 rnd vs 10. With 15 you now have to have 2 divisions: one with 15 and one with 10. Otherwise, states with 10 capacity restrictions are left out. Might not be a bad idea to do that. Then maybe people would start voting the idiots out of office and start doing away with stupid laws. no, states with 10 round capacity restriction will just go to 10 rounds. there's already a rule for that. Except that won't work where grandfathered magazines are allowed So maybe they should just change the wording to indicate that in restricted states that allow grandfathered magazines the limit is 10. I mean we want to be fair, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerba Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Re comment on 15 rnd vs 10. With 15 you now have to have 2 divisions: one with 15 and one with 10. Otherwise, states with 10 capacity restrictions are left out. Might not be a bad idea to do that. Then maybe people would start voting the idiots out of office and start doing away with stupid laws. no, states with 10 round capacity restriction will just go to 10 rounds. there's already a rule for that. Except that won't work where grandfathered magazines are allowed You might be allowed to have the magazines, but the law restricting capacity are imposed equally across the board: 3.3.1: In states where competitors are restricted by law to maximum magazine capacity, that maximum capacity will be the maximum allowed for all competitors in the contest. Any such limitations must be made known to all competitors by the Match Director/Range Master before the start of the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmca Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Re comment on 15 rnd vs 10. With 15 you now have to have 2 divisions: one with 15 and one with 10. Otherwise, states with 10 capacity restrictions are left out. Might not be a bad idea to do that. Then maybe people would start voting the idiots out of office and start doing away with stupid laws. no, states with 10 round capacity restriction will just go to 10 rounds. there's already a rule for that. Except that won't work where grandfathered magazines are allowed You might be allowed to have the magazines, but the law restricting capacity are imposed equally across the board: 3.3.1: In states where competitors are restricted by law to maximum magazine capacity, that maximum capacity will be the maximum allowed for all competitors in the contest. Any such limitations must be made known to all competitors by the Match Director/Range Master before the start of the match. The NROI was asked last year to clarify that rule. We were told that it doesn't apply to states that allow "grandfathered" magazines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneBray Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 RE Rule 3.3.1. So if a state prohibits possession of a magazine with a capacity > 10 rnds, how does a person from that state compete in a USPSA competition held out of state in a division like Open, Limited, or CO if it had a mag capacity limit of 15 and not violate the state law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titandriver Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) kmca - could you point me to that ruling from NROI regarding grandfathered mags? I can't seem to find it. Thanks! Edited January 8, 2016 by titandriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmca Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 RE Rule 3.3.1. So if a state prohibits possession of a magazine with a capacity > 10 rnds, how does a person from that state compete in a USPSA competition held out of state in a division like Open, Limited, or CO if it had a mag capacity limit of 15 and not violate the state law? Magazines in possession prior to a cut-off date are allowed in a few states. kmca - could you point me to that ruling from NROI regarding grandfathered mags? I can't seem to find it. Thanks! I believe it was Amadon that made that ruling, so it was a while ago. I'll look to see if I can find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerba Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 RE Rule 3.3.1. So if a state prohibits possession of a magazine with a capacity > 10 rnds, how does a person from that state compete in a USPSA competition held out of state in a division like Open, Limited, or CO if it had a mag capacity limit of 15 and not violate the state law? He would have to borrow magazines when he goes to those states to be competitive or competes with his 10 round mags...People from Canada come down here to the US and compete in Open with 10 round mags all the time...some will borrow mags from friends or they will buy the hi-cap mags and leave it with the friend when they go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmca Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 kmca - could you point me to that ruling from NROI regarding grandfathered mags? I can't seem to find it. Thanks! Here's a link to the thread I started discussing this: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=182966&hl=%2010%20%20round%20%20magazines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titandriver Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Thanks kmca! Post #49 in that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerba Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Thanks kmca! Post #49 in that thread. He didn't really answer the question... The way I see it, the rule is clear - owning a grandfathered higher capacity magazine has nothing to do with State laws...the rule deals with the State law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now