AZGunut Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Phil Strader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIIID Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 It's about time, good job Phil. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) They updated the scores at uspsa.org. And I bet that really hurt Nil's hand. Owwww. Edited May 10, 2015 by ChuckS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Antichrome Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Phil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronicTwitch Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Mike G. in 6th! I shoot with him at our local club, now I don't feel as slow knowing he's performing at that level!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 43.3 oz was his gun weight. he says he made weight in the past with it so was a surprise to him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 And I bet that really hurt Nil's hand. Owwww. It did ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) It is great to see that just a hair over 2% separated the top four finishers...that is a horse race! Here are the combined results with the "open" shooters and the single stackers. http://combinedresults.info/index.php/match/14402 Bummer about Matt Mink not making weight. i believe he shoots a DW PM9. It would be interesting to find out the whole story of how/why he didn't make weight. I have a PM9 (with aftermaket grips and S&A mag well) and just weighed it with a mag and got 42 ounces. I wonder if he added or changed something right before the match. Edited May 10, 2015 by Bamboo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Doesn't PASA have their own chrono station stuff, with lots of people having issues over the years going minor with the same batch of ammo that just made major at a previous major. maybe the scale was off ??? Just seems i hear chrono stories every year. I would like to hear about the other guys who went open too>>>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerburgess Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 The link isn't working on my phone, where would he have placed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) You can do the math,. just solve for his stage points by using the HHF from SS and his HF from Open. Add them up and that will tell you his place. But, it is just a mathematical exercise since I doubt he shot the match as he would of if he was in the running. Edited May 10, 2015 by cnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 The link isn't working on my phone, where would he have placed? Yeah, didn't work for me either. Try this: http://combinedresults.info/ Go to: IL09 - PIKE-ADAMS SPORTSMEN'S ALLIANCE That should work mo'better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mach1soldier Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) The chrono issues weren't chronograph at all. Everyone went open because of weight or holster or mag issues. Don't bring 10 round mags for a major gun and life will be good. I was 8 PF higher at pasa then cowtown. Edited May 10, 2015 by mach1soldier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeg1005 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) The chrono issues weren't chronograph at all. Everyone went open because of weight or holster or mag issues. Don't bring 10 round mags for a major gun and life will be good. I was 8 PF higher at pasa then cowtown. I thought so too... I clocked in at 177pf, where as my chrono and the one at Wisc the weekend before were both about 170-171. Edited May 10, 2015 by mikeg1005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeg1005 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I just sent him a text asking why... sad. As we were sitting there debating which gun he should shoot when he chose the 9, so I feel like I was part of the problem if it was indeed for being overweight. I wish there was a way to combine the scores and see where he would have been....You can do the math,. just solve for his stage points by using the HHF from SS and his HF from Open. Add them up and that will tell you his place. But, it is just a mathematical exercise since I doubt he shot the match as he would of if he was in the running. Or just go to combinedresults.info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Congrats to Phil on his victory. Well deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 My gun weighed .5 oz. lighter than Oh. Sectional last year. Didn't change a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 43.3 oz was his gun weight. he says he made weight in the past with it so was a surprise to him as well. Different mags or base pads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G T Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 He said nothing changed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 He said nothing changed... hmm. well. something must have changed. I don't remember what my gun weighed (i'm way under weight with a small-magwell 45, so i don't pay much attention), but I think it was about the same as I weighed it at home. I know i have mags that are significantly lighter than others. I always give them a tripp mag to weigh with the gun (those are the majority of what I use). Manny's gun was wavering between 43.0 and 43.1 depending on the wind. He said he probably needed to clean it, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Mine was .3oz lighter than ever before either at WSSSC or previous SS NATS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Capizzo Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I wonder if the scales will create the same issues as the chrono. "But my gun was 1/2 oz under at home!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I wonder if the scales will create the same issues as the chrono. "But my gun was 1/2 oz under at home!" As I recall last year, there were MORE people that said they chrono'd the same as they always do than folks that were surprised by going minor. I didn't shoot last year, but this year my chrono and weight results were not surprising to me, but that may be because I chrono and weigh my gun routinely at home. Still, it sucks to be the guy that gets bumped for weight. Hopefully he at least shot on saturday. It would *really* suck to get bumped for weight and have to shoot on friday. (I shot on thursday, in pretty decent weather until the last few stages). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellM Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 My gun weighed exactly what it weighs at home on a 2k scale. I did notice the scale at chrono was sitting on a Hogue bench mat on a crooked picnic table. I think when it comes to the scale or chrono at a nationals match every attemp at the best possible accuracy should be made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherryriver Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Our chef's scale here at home rendered Ms. Roe's Canyon Creek .38 Super (built on a Springer Loaded, not the newer gray RO-based gun) at 42.4oz. The SSC match scale said the very same thing. We have a chef's scale because Ms. Roe is a chef.That's really good. For me. On the other hand, our chrono kept saying the SnS 135s were going to make 134ish, but at showtime, they only went 129.7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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