Midas Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Hello Everyone, I just got done doing a informal Non-Scientific experiment to see what would get me the best results using the Stainless Steel Pin Method of cleaning Brass and Walnut/Corncob. I used Range brass , mostly 9mm fir my test. And I did not I first started with Corn Cob and Walnut combinations using Nufinish and all the other similar products out there. I was able to get to a 80 Percent of a new finish using 50/50 split of Walnut and Corncob Nu-Finish car wax for 2 Hours. The insides where not real Clean. But that does not mater to me very much. Next I tried my new Frankford Arsenal wet Tumbler with10lbs of Pins and 8 Lbs of brass. Using Dawn and Lemonshine and let it go for 1.5 hours. That came out at about 90 percent clean. Then for my last comparison I used the Cleaning solution that came with the Tumbler for 1.5 hours.. WOW>>>>> That came out like new at 100 percent. So I tried it again using that solution on some really bad brass that was 45cal. Again I compared it to some brand new Starline Brass. This is what I'm going with. So I know that other people will other results and this is not the "do all" for everyone but it works well for me. If you want super Clean/Shiny Brass the Wet/Stainless Steel Pin method is most probably your best bet. But just my opinion of course. Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I use 5lbs of pins and 20lbs or brass with laundry detergent and Lemi Shine or Jet Dry, much less rinsing with laundry detergent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 How do y'all dry the brass indoors in a winter climate? Especially the primer pockets. I tried the oven and it discolored my shiny brass. Besides I do way too much brass to mess with the oven. Summer, no problem, lay out in the sun. Winter looks to be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBeazlie Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I put my clean and rinsed brass in a towel and but it in our spare bath tub and it is dry in a couple of days. I use auto wash and wax with the Lemishine and brass stays keeps its shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 After you separate the brass and pins, just tumble in corn/walnut or whatever you like for an hour or so. Dries the brass and puts the finishing touch on it. If you run it in one of these it gets most of the water off the brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBolt Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I just converted to the wet side. I bought the Frankfort 7L setup on Amazon for $160. So far I have only run two batches of .40 brass (approximately 2k combined). I used 5lbs of pins and two tablespoons of Meguir's car soap and a 1/2 teaspoon of Lemishine. Ran for two hours and they came out great. The second batch I cut the soap to 1 tablespoon and the Lemi to a 1/4 tsp and ran for 45 mins. Parts came out looking just as good as the first batch. Next run I plan to cut the run time to 30 mins and see how they look. I am also not depriming. My load volume is way too high to run a separate deprime prior to cleaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerassassin22 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I went to Good Will and got a food dehydrator for 10bucks and I can dry 5lbs of brass in about 20minutes with it. In the summer I set outside for about 1hr and it's to hot to touch LOL. I use 5lbs of Brass to 7lbs of Pins 2x 40 Casings of Lemishine 2x Drops Brasso Run for about 1hr 20minutes and bam nice and shiny and clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwikel Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 On pistol brass since I don't knock the primers out before I wet tumble them I use zero pins. I run a 20" long 6" pvc drum and I fill it 3/4 full of brass add cold water to a level above the brass then add armor all wash and wax and a teaspoon of lemi-shine powder. I run my batches for 1 hour spin off the pins in a Dillon separator while rinsing with cold water. To dry them I lay them out on a towel over night in a conditioned air room. They are dry and ready to load in about 12 hrs. I also have a 40" drum for larger batches but it get pretty heavy when full of brass and water. The only time I use SS pins is tumbling with primers out and I don't use more than 5 lbs regardless of which drum I tumble in and have great results. Spinning off the pins is the biggest PITA of the entire process IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 On pistol brass since I don't knock the primers out before I wet tumble them I use zero pins. I run a 20" long 6" pvc drum and I fill it 3/4 full of brass add cold water to a level above the brass then add armor all wash and wax and a teaspoon of lemi-shine powder. I run my batches for 1 hour spin off the pins in a Dillon separator while rinsing with cold water. You use zero pins but you the spin off the pins with a separator? Curious how much wash and wax you use and do you feel it works better than Dawn (or other alternatives)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwikel Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I stated I use them on brass I decap first (rifle brass). The process for pistol brass is identical except the SS pins are not added. I use 2 oz of wash and wax in the 20" drum and 4 oz in the 40" drum. The biggest difference I see using it is pistol brass doesn't stick to the expander like it does with dawn detergent. Also the brass seems to tarnish slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I stated I use them on brass I decap first (rifle brass). The process for pistol brass is identical except the SS pins are not added. I use 2 oz of wash and wax in the 20" drum and 4 oz in the 40" drum. The biggest difference I see using it is pistol brass doesn't stick to the expander like it does with dawn detergent. Also the brass seems to tarnish slower. Thanks, I may have to try it, I have been using Dawn which cleans well enough, but it seems people are getting even better results with wash and wax products (just as clean with less tarnish and more lubricity). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue edge Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) Carwash,Shampoo & conditioner works great on cars aiso Edited February 19, 2015 by blue edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkreutz Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I put a squirt of zip wash and wax, and a sprinkle of Lemi Shine. 1 hour tumbling, separate pins from brass, rinse thoroughly, put the brass in towels, fold up edges, roll back and forth a few times, dump onto new towel, repeat 4 times, then let them air dry for a day. I don't deprime, in my mind that would be excessive brass handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roons Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I dry my brass on a towel with a large fan blowing across them. I then shuffle the brass around every 30 minutes or so. They're usually completely dry in a couple hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdawgbeav Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Dry brass: mesh laundry bag, shoe rack in dryer, set to low heat (fluff) for 30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipscjoe Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Dehydrator is best. Totally dry 20-30 min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman195 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Stupid question. Are you guys using just any water? Ive read that you need to use the Distilled water to prevent water marks. Here in AZ the tap water is very calcium rich and I've heard people complain about watermarks which has kept me away from making the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkreutz Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Stupid question. Are you guys using just any water? Ive read that you need to use the Distilled water to prevent water marks. Here in AZ the tap water is very calcium rich and I've heard people complain about watermarks which has kept me away from making the switch. The Lemi Shine acts as a water conditioner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrconst Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I dry my brass on a towel with a large fan blowing across them. I then shuffle the brass around every 30 minutes or so. They're usually completely dry in a couple hours. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead slinger Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I put my brass in oven at the lowest setting for 20 min then turn oven off and let them sit in there until cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I get the excess water off by throwing them on a towel then use a dehydrator with built in timer, set it and forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 The more water you get off the outside, the less there will be to dry and leave water marks. If it leaves marks on the inside n who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Love my wet tumbler, brass comes out so clean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldor Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I put my brass in oven at the lowest setting for 20 min then turn oven off and let them sit in there until cool Same here in the winter. -15 outside, the brass doesnt dry that well in the garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman195 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Stupid question. Are you guys using just any water? Ive read that you need to use the Distilled water to prevent water marks. Here in AZ the tap water is very calcium rich and I've heard people complain about watermarks which has kept me away from making the switch. The Lemi Shine acts as a water conditioner. Most Def heading to the store to get some lemi shine then. I love how shiny it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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