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Hello Everyone, I just got done doing a informal Non-Scientific experiment to see what would get me the best results using the Stainless Steel Pin Method of cleaning Brass and Walnut/Corncob. I used Range brass , mostly 9mm fir my test. And I did not I first started with Corn Cob and Walnut combinations using Nufinish and all the other similar products out there. I was able to get to a 80 Percent of a new finish using 50/50 split of Walnut and Corncob Nu-Finish car wax for 2 Hours. The insides where not real Clean. But that does not mater to me very much. Next I tried my new Frankford Arsenal wet Tumbler with10lbs of Pins and 8 Lbs of brass. Using Dawn and Lemonshine and let it go for 1.5 hours. That came out at about 90 percent clean. Then for my last comparison I used the Cleaning solution that came with the Tumbler for 1.5 hours.. WOW>>>>> That came out like new at 100 percent. So I tried it again using that solution on some really bad brass that was 45cal. Again I compared it to some brand new Starline Brass. This is what I'm going with. So I know that other people will other results and this is not the "do all" for everyone but it works well for me. If you want super Clean/Shiny Brass the Wet/Stainless Steel Pin method is most probably your best bet. But just my opinion of course. Jan