compshootfl Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I want one of the ultra match guns in .40, where do I find these things? These guys are listing one for sale http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/pistols/rock-island-armory-pistols/armscor-rock-island-hi-cap-tactical-1911-40-s-w.cfm?gun_id=100494683 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdawgbeav Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) I want one of the ultra match guns in .40, where do I find these things? These guys are listing one for sale http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/pistols/rock-island-armory-pistols/armscor-rock-island-hi-cap-tactical-1911-40-s-w.cfm?gun_id=100494683 I believe this is the one he is looking for: https://us.armscor.com/products/pro-match-ultra-hc-40sw Grab-a-gun lists it on their site. Currently out of stock, but you can sign up for notifications: http://grabagun.com/armscor-rock-island-armory-pro-ultra-match.html Edited July 24, 2015 by bigdawgbeav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compshootfl Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) I think they are the same aren't they ? Just a different model #.... If not, what are the differences? I have the 9mm version (below) and when I called them to ask the difference between mine (older model) and the new one, they said they are the same gun, just a new name and model #. Edited July 24, 2015 by compshootfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdawgbeav Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I think they are the same aren't they ? Just a different model #.... If not, what are the differences? I have the 9mm version (below) and when I called them to ask the difference between mine (older model) and the new one, they said they are the same gun, just a new name and model #. The new .40 referenced above is one of their new Match guns. Full-length dust cover, but no rail. Like my new ROCK Ultra is a Para 14.45 clone, this one is an STI Edge clone, just different grips. Think of it as getting an STI Edge for 1/4 of the cost. All that extra money for upgrades! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compshootfl Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 yup....no rail....I am glad I have the rail as I use it for 3 gun and other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1094 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 What parts drop in/or take very little fitment to the 9mm version? I'd like as short of a trigger pull and reset. What other parts need replacing? Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdawgbeav Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 What parts drop in/or take very little fitment to the 9mm version? I'd like as short of a trigger pull and reset. What other parts need replacing? Thanks for the help! It's all a matter of personal preference. I know that I want a lighter trigger pull, so I'm dropping in a C&S 3.5lb match trigger. I'm also going to have to remove some metal to make IDPA weight. After that I plan on losing the front sight for a narrow Dawson. Torn on the rear sight now that I blacked out the 2 dots. I'm also lowering the recoil spring weight and swapped the extractor for an EGW HD extractor. Other upgrades to consider would be a metal MSH as the stock one is plastic. Maybe the ambi-safety could be changed. Just ran 300 initial rounds down the barrel and I might want a wider safety as a thumb rest. Speaking of breaking in, just made a new video (posted below) about different magazines. This video was shot prior to break in, so there will be another video post-break-in with my findings. *Spoiler Alert* - One of my new Mec-Gar mags was locking the slide back prior to the last round. Will also shoot a video about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1094 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the reply! My mainspring housing is metal. Edited July 25, 2015 by usmc1094 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdawgbeav Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Thanks for the reply! My mainspring housing is metal. Guess they user the metal one on the single stacks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1094 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Its the double stack 9mm. I did have a problem with the mainspring housing and it is back a rock island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdawgbeav Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Its the double stack 9mm. I did have a problem with the mainspring housing and it is back a rock island. Didn't realize it was double... my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) For those of us with RIA double stack 40's..... The ACT P16 40 magazines that Greg Cote offers are also stock equivalent for RIA HC (double stack) 40S&W. Great pricing too. They lock in and function well and have enough body length to use bases on magwell equipped guns. Unlike the Mec Gar P16 mags, which were too short to use bases and would barely (if at all) lock with factory magwells installed. Edited July 26, 2015 by Yeti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Bird Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I have a 51679 since it has a non supported barrel can anyone give me some OAL direction. Loading Win 473 Win SP primer Win Brass. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdawgbeav Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Can anyone point me to a holster for the RIA? Mine is the .45 HC version. I'm not sure if a 14.45 holster will actually work and didn't want to spend money for the wrong item. Needs to be IDPA legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud White Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) Great Vids Bigdawgbeav I got a 40 with Tac rail inbound should be here Tuesday might not be able to pick up till thurs.. Have you thought of having the frame drilled under the grip panels like the para double stacks are? I also ordered a 10mm Barrel, Link, And pin from Advanced Tactical the high cap 10mm they offer doesnt have the rail wanted the rail for extra weight for when i shoot the real 10mm Loads http://s65.photobucket.com/user/2nd-Chance/media/ParaKit4.jpg.html Edited August 30, 2015 by Bud White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdawgbeav Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Great Vids Bigdawgbeav I got a 40 with Tac rail inbound should be here Tuesday might not be able to pick up till thurs.. Have you thought of having the frame drilled under the grip panels like the para double stacks are? I also ordered a 10mm Barrel, Link, And pin from Advanced Tactical the high cap 10mm they offer doesnt have the rail wanted the rail for extra weight for when i shoot the real 10mm Loads http://s65.photobucket.com/user/2nd-Chance/media/ParaKit4.jpg.html Yes on the drilling. I'm waiting for a local smith to call and let me know when they can take it. Hopefully going to have a frame cut like you would find on a standard 1911. Now I can also shave weight with replacing the magwell, but no one makes a lightweight replacement. Tried the Dawson for the 14.45 but it didn't work. Frame is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud White Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I wonder if you can cut it out like a Normal single stack since the frame narrows at the back .. my para has 2 large size holes drilled in the frame .. can post pics or i would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeman711 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Ck. with MBX for mags and base pads for Rock Islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhawk6 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 "Ck. with MBX for mags and base pads for Rock Islands." Who ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhawk6 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Sorry , Never mind i just found them. !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combsie Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Sorry up front if this was answered already, but I'm having trouble finding the definitive answer. I have the 40S&W Tac model on order and was wondering what particular items to order. The items I'm looking for: 1. Magazines 2. Base pads 3. "Race" holster that fits. Also, is there any recommended upgrade(s) on the cheap side that will improve performance? **EDIT- Just found the MBX branded mags, anyone with experience? Edited September 2, 2015 by Combsie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud White Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Well get the 40 Friday my Package with barrel, Barrel link, Pin showed up yesterday minus the barrel why would you mail it in a yellow bubble wrap envelope and not tape it good at the ends.. almost looks like it was opened and barrel removed its a nice clean rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogtired Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I bought a Non-tactical model in 9mm because I found one at a store. It does have the removable sights and no magwell. It came with one mag labeled 22 TCM. I had some Mec gar P16-40 mags which I added some plus two's and they work great. Both at 20 reloadable, the stock at 18 reloadable. My Para magwell snaps right on but the mags will not seat, so currently running without. It is a pretty big hole anyway. It has functioned very well so far, the trigger is pretty decent, some take up but crisp, short reset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud White Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Got my 40 Today found out the para mags with the extended basepads from para fit and feed fine 19 in mag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameslee1223 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Does anyone know which of the high cap models (or any model for that matter) have ramped barrels? There isn't much info on Armscor's site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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