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Anyone have any experience with the TCM/9mm pistol? I'm wondering who makes a decent extended mag release and ambi safety for this? I'm assuming its a Para Ord style frame, but wondering if anyone knows for sure or has done something similar? I'm interested in setting this up for Limited.

Also, anyone have a line on grips for this?

Thanks!

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I know Mike Seekland was testing some of their pistols recently and was impressed with their performance.

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I have a .22TCM/9mm that I use for 3Gun and other matches

It is a Para frame.

Any Ambi safety can be fitted and will probably need some fitting

I have a Wilson and it needs some fitting

Gun Craft makes an extended Mag release

https://www.dawsonprecision.com/CategoryProductList.jsp?cat=MAGAZINE+PARTS:Para+Ordnance

Grips- Most Para p14/16/18 should fit.

you can order the VZs from Armscor

https://us.advancedtactical.com/shop/product-detail/vz-operator-grips-1911-a2-fs/

Good:

trigger is 3.5 lbs

can take modified STI Mags (have to relieve some material)

Not a bad shooter

Not so Good:

Accuracy with 9mm barrel.

barrel hood is significantly thinner than the breechface so lockup suffers.

I can move the barrel when it is in battery.

No idea about the .22 barrel as I'm not interested in it.

I just sent it back to Armscor to see what they say.

My suggestion would be to sign up for the stock notices on the 2011 Tac Hi Cap 51679

https://us.armscor.com/products/tac-2011-hi-cap-9mm

This one probably has a dedicated slide, etc.

Some just showed up the other day at davidsons or grabagun.

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Interesting. I picked one up and shot it yesterday - I didn't notice any play in my 9mm barrel when in battery. I'd love to find a 51679 - but I'm concerned about finding mags for it. What magwell do you think is on that thing? Did you put a magwell on your TCM?

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I'm glad yours did not have the same issue.

Sign up at grabagun and gungenie for stock notifications.

Like I said - there were some last week.

you can fit a Dawson magwell for para on the RIA

http://www.dawsonprecision.com/CategoryProductList.jsp?cat=MAGWELLS%2C+MAIN+SPRING+HOUSINGS+AND+BACKSTRAPS:Magwell+Para+Ordnance+HiCap

The dawson extra capacity basepads might not fit depending on your mag. Dawson has the info on their site.

I have the older one not the newer ICE which should also fit.

since the 51679 comes with a magwell you could try asking armscor when they might be available or keep an eye on the Para pro shop.

The items look very similar

I also have +200 or .300 dawson basepads that do not add capacity to clear the magwell.

Mags you can find here

http://www.gregcotellc.com/cart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=97_152

Or you can buy some STI mags and do some filing/sanding.

I did and get 23 with TTI spring/follower/basepad

Edited by theKenny

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I ordered a 2011 Armscor#51679 from Tombstone tactical on Friday. I called armscor to ask where to find mags, they sent me to a website (tactical something??).. The mags I saw were the ones they send with the Tcm combo pistols, so im not sure how they will work with the magwell that comes on the 51679.. We shall see and I will get some rounds through it and work up a range report. I will probobaly set mine up with STI mags for some lim minor and Steel games.

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Chanman

They probably meant

https://us.advancedtactical.com/shop/product-detail/22tcm-mecgar17-round-fs-magazine/

you can get the same mags from greg cote.

looking forward to the range report

Thanks Kenny,

Yes that was the site that Armscor told me to use to buy mags. Do you have any pics of yours with the Dawson .200\.300 pads seated in your gun? I may just run those in keeping with the idea of a budget limited gun..

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Sorry, no pics at the moment, gun is back at armscor.

Remember, mine is a different model without the factory magwell.

I would get a few more mags first and see how they work with the factory magwell.

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Someone makes a mag release that works for STI/SVI mags. When I ordered the pistol I ordered the part. The pistol never came in so I got an STI.

If one of you would like the mag release I would be willing to exchange it for good karma.

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1time,

is it from Canyon Creek?

GunCraft also makes one

https://www.speedshooter.com/product_detail.cfm?id=GCPMRB&n=Gun-Craft-Para-Ordnance-Mag-Release-Blue

However, the stock one has been fine for me.

this is a standard 140mm STI mag in mine after some fitting.

The mag itself needs to be reduced from about the mag catch to the mag lips.

th_RockIsland_zps496e0456.jpg

short clip showing function

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr307/rdeschain/th_rockisland_001_001_003_001_zps3d6b7603.mp4

Edited by theKenny

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1time,

is it from Canyon Creek?

GunCraft also makes one

https://www.speedshooter.com/product_detail.cfm?id=GCPMRB&n=Gun-Craft-Para-Ordnance-Mag-Release-Blue

However, the stock one has been fine for me.

this is a standard 140mm STI mag in mine after some fitting.

The mag itself needs to be reduced from about the mag catch to the mag lips.

th_RockIsland_zps496e0456.jpg

short clip showing function

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr307/rdeschain/th_rockisland_001_001_003_001_zps3d6b7603.mp4

I'm not sure. I bought it two years ago.

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I can offer karma and money.

PM or email your name and address. It will probably be Thursday before I can get it shipped.

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Chanman

They probably meant

https://us.advancedtactical.com/shop/product-detail/22tcm-mecgar17-round-fs-magazine/

you can get the same mags from greg cote.

looking forward to the range report

Thanks Kenny,

Yes that was the site that Armscor told me to use to buy mags. Do you have any pics of yours with the Dawson .200\.300 pads seated in your gun? I may just run those in keeping with the idea of a budget limited gun..

The mags at Greg Cote are $21.95 each vs $34.95 at Advanced Tactical. Greg also sells a base plate that adds +2 for $9.95 but he is currently out of those.

I just bought one of these guns. I haven't had time to take it to the range but a buddy has one and he says it is an extremely flat shooting pistol and I can see why, the pistol weighs 46 oz. without the mag. It does have some sharp edges that you wouldn't find on a pistol costing 3-4 times more. Overall, the pistol appears to offer a lot for the price. Trigger pull on mine measures out to an average of 4.25 lbs and is better than I thought it would be.

The price grabagun is selling at is a fantastic price. I wouldn't expect to find it any cheaper than that. I had to pay a bit more for mine, Armscor is offering a $50 rebate on these for purchases made through 10/15/14.

The guy I bought mine from claims that he was told RI is only manufacturing 12 of these a month. I do find it curious that they don't make these in 40SW. That makes no sense to me.

I hope to go shoot it tomorrow.

Edited with strike throughs because of inaccurate information. Sorry guys.

Edited by JMike

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I forgot to ask, does anyone know of good non-race holster option for this pistol? I had a spare Ghost Stinger for a STI but it doesn't fit this pistol.

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Well damn! I looked all over their website the other day and could only find the 9mm, 45 and 10mm.

http://www.gregcotellc.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=841

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Well damn! I looked all over their website the other day and could only find the 9mm, 45 and 10mm.

http://www.gregcotellc.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=841

That basepad will not fit the mags for this pistol.

Says so in the description and I can confirm as I have it on my cz mags.

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I dunno, maybe I am missing something but I don't see where it says they won't fit. I am not saying your wrong and I am right, I am just saying I am not seeing it. I'll give Greg a shout to get the definitive answer and repost here.

Thanks for pointing that out.

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