P.E. Kelley Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I must not be getting the joke...I am a little dull in the senses this day...What kind of turrets are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I told you what you wanted to hear. But then you are not wired that way. They are exposed turrets with a Zero stop. They have very positive engagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Thank you sir, you know how I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead-Head Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 OK, Next and probably most important question...who has the best deal on one of these things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 MarkCO which model # do you have, since they seem to have several ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 For the intended use, I can't understand why Burris would have said "let's use exposed turrets." I'm not real familiar with a zero stop, but it's only beneficial AFTER you realize your elevation adjustment has turned, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I have the 201001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Just got the 1-5 with 556 BDC reticle. Haven't shot using it yet, glass looks great, illumination is brighter than an Aimpoint. Excited to zero it and put some rounds downrange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacticalCOWBOY Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Would this be a great " buy once and cry once" optic. For a new 3guner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoker Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I wonder if they use he same illumination as the Steiner 1-5? I turn it down in bright Texas summer sun matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Would this be a great " buy once and cry once" optic. For a new 3guner? You won't cry. That is the whole point. It is not cheap, but it has some features that elevate it to the premium choice for 3Gun. Optics with these features have been in the $2K and up range, and they did not even have features as good as this one. You will have to decide between mil and BDC. For most newer shooters, BDC is easier and faster. However, the Mil is a little finer allowing a bit more precision in the 350 to 500 yard range. The 300 to 450 is what tends to eat people's lunch at the 4 or 5 matches that use targets past 300. The only thing scaring some people are the exposed turrets, which have traditionally been no-go for "must work" and 3Gun optics. This set up does not worry me in the least. I ran a few drills where I dialed for one or two targets and shot the close stuff off a tad. It has given me an option I had never even considered. If you are sure you will stick in 3Gun, sure, it is a great choice. So too, get a 1-4MTAC for the first few matches and then pop that on an AR22 trainer, or a 16" gun and put the XTRII on the main match rifle at that point. I have a few MTACs, and I am not getting rid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longshot83 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Just ordered mine with the MIL reticle. Can't wait to get it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) I've looked through the one RTR has. Brightness is not a factor for sure, it feels like you'll burn your eye out looking through this thing at high setting. 1x isn't bad but I do get a bit of fisheye around the edges when moving from target to target. The BDC reticle is too thick, the 400yard subtention would easily cover a target making it hard to aim at, haven't seen through the mil version yet but I heard the line thickness is thinner. I don't under stand the horseshoe on a Second Focal Point scope either, just makes the scope way to busy. Maybe one day they'll use a copy of the Steiner Rapid dot 5.56 reticle, if they did that these would sell like flap jacks! Edited May 27, 2014 by DocMedic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 The mil reticle is much thinner, and it is much better. The "fish eye" is likely related to the focus. These have almost 4 diopters of adjustment and it is unlikely that someone else'e focus will be perfect for you. Once I got the correct focus point, the image through the optic went flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiasushi Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I've looked through the one RTR has. Brightness is not a factor for sure, it feels like you'll burn your eye out looking through this thing at high setting. 1x isn't bad but I do get a bit of fisheye around the edges when moving from target to target. The BDC reticle is too thick, the 400yard subtention would easily cover a target making it hard to aim at, haven't seen through the mil version yet but I heard the line thickness is thinner. I don't under stand the horseshoe on a Second Focal Point scope either, just makes the scope way to busy. Maybe one day they'll use a copy of the Steiner Rapid dot 5.56 reticle, if they did that these would sell like flap jacks! In the optics section of Sniper's Hide there's discussion of the new Steiner T5Xi line, and the 1-5x with either 556 or 762 rapid dot reticle is supposed to cost $1299 with an estimated September delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longshot83 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Mark, which scope view lever are you using on the XTR II? MGM dosent list this scope yet. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) Mark, which scope view lever are you using on the XTR II? MGM dosent list this scope yet. Thank you. Model 1762SV2N3V1 Same as the MTAC 1-4, Swaro Z6i Edited May 28, 2014 by MarkCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I've looked through the one RTR has. Brightness is not a factor for sure, it feels like you'll burn your eye out looking through this thing at high setting. 1x isn't bad but I do get a bit of fisheye around the edges when moving from target to target. The BDC reticle is too thick, the 400yard subtention would easily cover a target making it hard to aim at, haven't seen through the mil version yet but I heard the line thickness is thinner. I don't under stand the horseshoe on a Second Focal Point scope either, just makes the scope way to busy. Maybe one day they'll use a copy of the Steiner Rapid dot 5.56 reticle, if they did that these would sell like flap jacks! In the optics section of Sniper's Hide there's discussion of the new Steiner T5Xi line, and the 1-5x with either 556 or 762 rapid dot reticle is supposed to cost $1299 with an estimated September delivery. You sir have peaked my interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Shot my first match with it. With a 200 yard zero on the main dot the second dot worked at 300, bottom dot is a bit low at 400 so put it on top of the target and it worked well. Definitely an improvement over my ACOG TA-11 for longer distance work. Was quite impressed with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longshot83 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Scope came tonight. Very pleased with the look and feel, the reticle is very nice and much brighter than the MTAC. The turrets are firm and the clicks are positive. I am not worried about them getting bumped when throwing it in a barrel, plus with the zero stop it will be easy to make sure it's at zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longshot83 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Finally got it mounted and sighted in. I really like this scope, very clear and bright. The illumination is easily visible in bright sunlight. I really like the smaller center dot compared to the MTAC, makes getting a good 200 yard zero much easier with the dot doesn’t cover 4.8" at 200 yards. The turrets are firm and clicks are positive, not as good as a Nightforce but for the cost it really good. Only complaint is the documentation, Burris doesn’t give a lot of info and they don’t explain the zero stop very well at all. After taking the cap of and seeing how it works it’s a very simple solution and should work well. I am not concerned with the zero getting changed by dumping the rifle in a barrel during a match. I am going to take it out and confirm holds out to 500 this weekend and I am really looking forward to it. The reticle and extra zoom should make it really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-56mm Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Which vendor are you guys getting these from? Who has the best price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I have put a good number of rounds downrange and shot 2 majors with it now. Still very pleased with the scope. Dialing for shots out to 600 yards is very simple, even if I have to RTZ. I put the 4-20 on my .260 bolt gun and have shot out to 1040 yards with it now. The illumination is not bright, but works well for night work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 We are making Scope Levers for these. http://www.3gunstuff.com/?page_id=910 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike41 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Mark, Will the MTAC scope view lever fit this scope or do you need to purchase a different one? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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