ChuckS Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 OpenSJC Converted G35 Work in progress. Developing TiteGroup and Longshot loads based on Rainiers 135gr FP to start with. Stayed tuned. Jim M Jim, If you want a resonable amount of gas to work the comp, you may want to go to a slower powder than TG. Dunno about LS. I have had good results with both N-340 and Silhouette. N-350 left some unburnt powder. I used ~8.5 gr of N-340 and about 9.2 gr of Sil for major open loads with Rainier 135's in a Tribrid II and a EGW-Comped Kart barrel. Later, Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resjudicata Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 My current load=favorite load... for now. STI Edge with stock .40 cal bull barrel 4.3 gr. Alliant E3 180 gr. Precision Delta jacketed exposed lead base 1.18 OAL mixed brass WSP primer 170 ish PF Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waxman Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 I now have my New practice, and club match load. took alot of testing, and alot of components, but I believe this is perfect. SV sight tracker, schuemann AET barrel 5" 180 Grain master blaster Moly, Soon to be precisions 4.3 grains Solo 1000 Fed SP primers Mixed brass 1.175 oal. This load is as light as VVN320, but ALOT less smokey, cheaper, and easier to find. The only issue it has at all, is if it is increased to 4.5 - 4.7 Then there is a little bit of primer flow. I am anxious to see how it does when it gets hot out. This load chrono's very consistant with only about 10-12 SD With 4.3 I am Right at 165 PF. I doubt I will use this as a Match load, since it gets a little spooky when you get over 170 pf. I will probably go back to zero, or berry Bullets, and VVN 320, or Tightgroup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gino_aki Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Used to be: Home built Para Open gun 155gr Hornady XTP 7.3gr Winchester Super Field Win or Fed Small pistol primer 178 PF, very accurate out of Centaur unramped(!?) 6" barrel and old EGW comp Substituted 7.0 WAP when it was available, same PF, same accuracy Currently have some WSF that I haven't tried yet, and 4+ lbs of WAP left. My friend Ray says Ramshot Silhouette is equivalent of WAP though haven't tried that either, yet. Currently loading: Dawson 5" Edge 200gr lead truncated cone flatpoint (Bull X) 5.0gr SR7625 Fed Small pistol primer Have always loaded long - 1.18 (XTP load), 1.20 (200 gr Edge load), only became a problem when I tried 155gr lead RNWC that were sized on the larger end of supposedly .401...more like .402. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ground Loop Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 155gr Rainier Leadsafe FN (plated) 5.20 Titegroup 1.160" OAL CCI SP primers Para 1640 Just chrono'd at 1053fps average, on a hot day. Looks like I need a little more coal in the fire to make Major (1065fps). Primers look fine.. will try 5.30gr next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torogi Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 180gr Bear Creek Moly Coated RN Hp-38 (w231) 4.7gr Federal Small Pistol various stamp once fired brass OAL: 1.130 Crimp: 0.418 PF= 175 avg of 10shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger10k Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 My current favorite is my current load. It is very soft. 4.4 grains of titegroup behind a zero 180 fmj at 1.135" Goes about 935 fps out of my glock 20 with kkm 40s&w conversion barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 180gr BBI or Bear Creek 4.7gr SOLO 1000 OAL 1.125 Shoots soft in my TS, and is pretty clean. Very little lead, or moly residue at all. I just love this load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordian Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 180gr BBI or Bear Creek 4.7gr SOLO 1000 OAL 1.125 Shoots soft in my TS, and is pretty clean. Very little lead, or moly residue at all. I just love this load. I'm shooting something similar. 170gr Precision Moly 5.0gr SOLO 1K OAL 1.185 Six inch Schuemann Barrel. I haven't chrono'd yet but I think that it will make PF with a point or two to spare. Very accurate and not a lot of smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbairborne Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 STI Xtreme 5" 185 Precisions/4.6 Solo 1000 (lot 1624)/COL 1.185/wsp 920 fps/PF 170.2 at this year's FL Open My latest lot of S-1000 (L 1930) is a bit slower and requires a couple tenths more to reach the same pf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 (edited) Brass: mixed Bullet: 180gr. FMJ (Precision Delta) Powder: 5.5 gr. WSF Primer: CCI 500 Gun: Springfield 40 XDm Dave Edited July 24, 2010 by Reshoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skroggster Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 hmm tightgroup seems to be a very popular powder. i've never used it. i run a 180 jhp mg pushed by win srp and i think about 5.7gr of winchester super field. very soft shooting. lynn Lynn VV & Titegroup is very popular. Titegroup is more economical by far. Brazo's built my EDGE and this is their data they gave me and I just made 181.2 PF at the Indiana State Championships. I chose Titegroup for Economics. For optimal performance, following are load recommendations for your Edge: OAL - Length of the cartridge should be 1.22 inches Powder - 4.8 grains Hodgdon Tite Group - 5.0 grains of Vihta Vuori N320 or Primers - Winchester small rifle primers or small pistol primers Brass - Remington (40 S&W) Bullets - 180 grain Zero JHP (40 S&W)or Montana Gold (I used MG/JHP) These loads should make a 168 to 170 power factor. However, when determining the load that will work best for your gun, begin by using about 10% less than the specified amount of powder. Check for pressure and check for velocity using a chronograph. Work your way up until the load meets the desired power factor without showing pressure signs. Brazos Custom Gunworks Ingi Londrigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbs007 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Mixed brass 4.9gr of VV N320 180gr MG JHP WSR OAL of 1.185 to 1.200 Average 168pf out of a Limcat Wildcat with KKM barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 I searched and didn't find much on WST so here goes: My favorite 185gr Precision with 4.8gr WST set at 1.185 about 172pf 5" Edge. FSP, WSP, or CCI SP For jacketed bullets. 180gr Zero JHP with 5.1gr of WST set .1.85 172pf 5" Edge. FSP, WSP, or CCI SP WST is clean and temp sensative don't put it on a hot dash and cook it, you will minor out. TiteGroup is reverse temp sensative, dirty, and burns extra hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper90 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Para 1640 limited Precision 180 gr tc 5.1 gr U. Clays oal 1.180 WSP misc brass pf 175 give or take I am being told Clays is not a good powder for the 40 is this true? Is it just not good for the Glock 35? Thanks Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 (edited) Para 1640 limited Precision 180 gr tc 5.1 gr U. Clays oal 1.180 WSP misc brass pf 175 give or take I am being told Clays is not a good powder for the 40 is this true? Is it just not good for the Glock 35? Thanks Chris I can't speak from expierence because I have not blown up a gun with it and I don't want to. There are enough independent reports on it that I'm not taking the chance. Clays is awesome in 45. My smith shot clays in his 40 limited and told me not to try it, when I asked he told me it shot soft with 200gr but he kept blowing the tops off brass and the cases would split and that was loaded out to 1.200 and he ran a 9# recoil spring. If you do use it be sure to carry a pair of right angle needle nose pliers in your pocket so you can get the cases out and finish the stage those DNF's hurt. Try the 180's or 185 precisions with some WST or N320 and you will forget all about Clays. Probably about 4.5 of WST in a glock and maybe 4.3 of N320 for a start. I run 4.8 and 4.5 but out at 1.185. I prefer the WST to N320 its just a touch softer. Use good brass with these powders when loaded short. Edited August 4, 2010 by CocoBolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
470nitro Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Mixed Brass WSP Primer 5.15gr Titegroup MG 180 JHP 1.220 OAL 945 fps STI 2011 chambered to 1.25" Very, very accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8082011 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 180 gn Zero JHP 5.0 gn VV320 Win Small Rifle Primer Mixed brass OAL 1.220 5.0" BBL STI widebody 171-173 PF No Complaints +1 for me. I use the exact load and get the same PF in same type of gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINMAN44 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 8.5 grains of Longshot with a 135GR rainier Open 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aclundwall Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Para 1640 limited Precision 180 gr tc 5.1 gr U. Clays oal 1.180 WSP misc brass pf 175 give or take I am being told Clays is not a good powder for the 40 is this true? Is it just not good for the Glock 35? Thanks Chris The recipe above, I believe, is calling out for UNIVERSAL Clays.... that's not the same powder as 'Clays'. Hodgdon offers Universal Clays, International Clays, and Clays. They're three totally different powders. I've used Universal Clays in .40, and it worked, but I didn't care for the feel of it. I usually use Titegroup, but mostly because of it's economy. My major .40 load is 4.35 gr Titegroup under a 185gr Precision, 1.190", WSP primer. I've not noticed it to be reverse temperature sensitive, as some have noted, but I hibernate when the temp goes much below 60 degrees. I do agree that it burns a little dirty, and if you shoot indoors, you might find it smokes too much. But it's not so dirty that it affects function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowrider Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) I searched and didn't find much on WST so here goes: My favorite 185gr Precision with 4.8gr WST set at 1.185 about 172pf 5" Edge. FSP, WSP, or CCI SP For jacketed bullets. 180gr Zero JHP with 5.1gr of WST set .1.85 172pf 5" Edge. FSP, WSP, or CCI SP WST is clean and temp sensative don't put it on a hot dash and cook it, you will minor out. TiteGroup is reverse temp sensative, dirty, and burns extra hot. Thanks for posting this. I'm going to be working up loads for a new Caspian soon and I am a fan of WST. I'm going to give these loads a try. Edited September 14, 2010 by Shadowrider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 para's Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) 175 gr swc from S&S Casting over 5.0 gr of WST works for us,1.185 oal, mixed brass and any small rifle or small pistol primer. WST is temp sensitive (the hotter the tempeture outside the slower the bullet travels) so make sure you crono with your load at temps above 80 degrees so you know your fps. 80 or lower is pretty consistant but 80 on up it starts running slower. WST is clean burning, best for no smoke with lead and cost is low. S&S cast bullets are about $70.00 a thousand for 175swc's and he has 140gr 180gr and 220gr also...great cast bullets. Edited September 15, 2010 by 2 para's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Chronoed mine 1 week a go. 4.3 grains Ramshot competition with 180 grains bear creek TC at about 85 degrees. Gun is Benny Hill fat free 6 in. Cleaned load soft load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the duck of death Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 *QUOTE* i would stay away from major clays loads in a glock. even at 1.200 length, pressure was up there. In a new G27 (better supported barrel) I've shot 4.0 Clays/MG 180CMJ OAL 1.125 it was a soft load w/no indication of pressure. Also 4.9 N320 and the all time blaster 5.0 TG all a OAL 1.125. Primer corners still rounded and cases look OK. At what point will I get into trouble w/Clays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCKev Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 4.8gr of VV320 MG 180gr JHP@1.17. I'm getting right at 950fps avg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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