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i would like to try N310,, though i somehow think it wont be any better than CLAYS..

harmon

I have (8lbs of it)and it's way snappier than clay's and when it get's warmer out watch your primers! :o

Your findings are strange. I have always know vihtavuori for not fluctuating with temperature changes like other powders?

Have you ever loaded vv 310 in 40 cal major with 180 or 200's? :wacko:

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i dont think i want to shoot any major N310 loads in our Texas summers...and having shot Clays, TITEGROUP and N320 side by side in the same gun..and all the same PF (within reason) i like the titegroup load the best... feels like my open guns recoil, snappy and quick.

Harmon

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WOrked up some loads for my W2RCG limited gun lol.

New KKM barrel

Hornady 180 HAPS

5.1 UC

1.180 OAL

Win nickel once fired

176 PF

about 55 degrees

Tried dropping the charge to 4.9 and barrel got 166 at 55 degrees. I want to chrono it again. The readings were all over the place. I had FPS from 889 to 967 in a 20 round string.

I also want to try E3 and TG with jacketed.

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My favorite recipe :

Bullet = 180gr Berry's plated Flatpoint

Charge = 5.3gr VV N320

OAL = 29,8 mm / 1.175 inch

Brass = Fiocchi GFL

Primer = Winchester Small Pistol

Average Speed = 960 FPS

Power Factor = 172 / 173

Gun = Tanfoglio Limited Custom HC .40S&W / EAA Witness Elite Limited

Barrel = 4,76 Inch Polygon Rifeling

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I must have a fast barrel or something

KKM barreled STI

4.3 TG

180 HAPS

1.180 OAL

Winchester nickel brass

Crimp is around .4195ish

PF is coming in at 166

This was in 50 degree weather if I recall correctly maybe colder

I've since bumped up to 4.4 but I need to rechrono. Depending on what 4.4 chronos at in the chold I may bump on up to 4.5 for my next run or for majors.

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In a stock barreled G22,I'm going to do pretty much exactly what Harmon is doing.Except with Fed 100s and FMJs.I'm pretty much right there with 4.5 grns,but thats at like 4500-5000 ft altitude and maybe 40 deg F.I'm going to bump it up to at least 4.7 grn.I'll be able to chrono as the temps get warmer to see if anything changes.Looks very promising though.-Mike

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In 5" guns:

4.9 Tightgroup

180 MG JHP

WW cases

WSP Primers

169-171 pf in several guns

In 6" guns:

6.0 gr Ramshot Siihouette

180gr MG JHP

WW cases

WSP Primers

170pf in STI barrel

STI & SV guns

DOC

Hey Doc,

Finally someone using Ram Sil:)

Can you compare the "feel" between the Titegroup load and the Sil load?

Thanks.

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Limited/L10

G35

4.3gr TiteGroup

180gr TC Billy Bullet (Black Moly)

WSP primers

Mixed Brass

105* in the shade :huh: When I tested.

982 FPS

178 PF

Snaps, I like it. Smoky.

Open

SJC Converted G35

Work in progress.

Developing TiteGroup and Longshot loads based

on Rainiers 135gr FP to start with. Stayed tuned.

Jim M

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180 MG JHP, 4.8 Titegroup, Starline Brass, F100 Primers, 1.160 OAL and a .417 Crimp giving 964 f/s at 50 deg. & cloudy.

Groups better than I can hold at 25 yds. 1.50" and at 50 yds. it hit where the sights pointed everytime (couple were pointed a bit high on the plate, but that's where they went) final group at 50 yds. was 3.50" (- the flyers).

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we shot these at A4 over the chrono

Well used STI edge

Winchester brass

Win Small rifle primers

180 MG JHP

4.4 grains CLAYS

1.200 OAL

6 shot average 165.1 at 34 degrees.

Harmon

Is this just the normal Hodgdon Clays? I bought a bunch of it and got mixed up with the Universal that I meant to buy. So now I have 8# of normal Clays and Hodgdon recomends a max of 3.5gr for around 850 fps, not making major at all. They stop short because of pressure signs. I've loaded to 3.6 and it seems fine in my Glock G35, but I'm warry of going higher. What do you think?

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we shot these at A4 over the chrono

Well used STI edge

Winchester brass

Win Small rifle primers

180 MG JHP

4.4 grains CLAYS

1.200 OAL

6 shot average 165.1 at 34 degrees.

Harmon

Is this just the normal Hodgdon Clays? I bought a bunch of it and got mixed up with the Universal that I meant to buy. So now I have 8# of normal Clays and Hodgdon recomends a max of 3.5gr for around 850 fps, not making major at all. They stop short because of pressure signs. I've loaded to 3.6 and it seems fine in my Glock G35, but I'm warry of going higher. What do you think?

3.6 is their MAX load, but at a MUCH shorter over all length, which creates a higher pressure.

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we shot these at A4 over the chrono

Well used STI edge

Winchester brass

Win Small rifle primers

180 MG JHP

4.4 grains CLAYS

1.200 OAL

6 shot average 165.1 at 34 degrees.

Harmon

Is this just the normal Hodgdon Clays? I bought a bunch of it and got mixed up with the Universal that I meant to buy. So now I have 8# of normal Clays and Hodgdon recomends a max of 3.5gr for around 850 fps, not making major at all. They stop short because of pressure signs. I've loaded to 3.6 and it seems fine in my Glock G35, but I'm warry of going higher. What do you think?

You might make a good minor load out of that for Production ?

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i would stay away from major clays loads in a glock.

even at 1.200 length, pressure was up there.

Harmon

Yea, thats what I was afraid of.... I guess I'll start out shooting production class and then I just need to meet minor power factor so I could work up some low powered loads to burn up the powder I bought... but at 3.5 gr it's gonna take a long time to go through the 8#, lol

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