Nimitz Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Ok , still very new to shooting in general - 6 months, and USPSA - 5 months although this is no excuse . Just one more thing I had to learn the hard way. A coworker of mine reloads for me and several others but I don't want to start a discussion about that .. at today's match on 2 different stages my G34 jammed with a rd chambered which I could not clear . I could not get the gun slide to budge . Needless to say those stages did not go well. After unjamming the gun for the second time someone asked me if I had a case gauge ... "uh, no ...". They let me borrow theirs and both rds did not fit. At that point they suggested I check every rd left I planned to use in the final 2 stages which I did and I found one more rd which may have been suspect. What's the lesson here? Every Rd needs to go through a case gauge the night before when preloading my mags -painful but valuable lesson, and the case gauge is already on order ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwoods Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Most shooters only case guage for major matches. If you use the proper reloading equipment you should be able to get by without any bulging of the cases. Find out what if you buddy does anything to account for glock bulged cases. If not, he should look into it. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Vigilante Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Time to start thinking about reloading your own!! If one of his reloads blows up your gun and causes injury to you or any bystanders both you and your buddy are going to be in a lot of hot water but I'm sure you know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I case gauge every single round that go through my guns. I have caught more than one split case or other issue and it really lets me look at primer depth. I use a 20 round case gauge from DAA and it doesn't take much time at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I learned the hard way. Now major or local match if its going into my mags it's first going into my gauge. I find 1 out of 5 to 7 hundred rounds will have an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj mike Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 why not just use your barrel till you get a case gauge.field stip the gun and drop the rounds in the barrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj mike Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 that field strip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobmysterious Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I drop check. Every. Single. Round. Can't remember that last time my ammo acted up on me in a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 When I was starting to reload I bought an EGW 4 caliber chamber checker from Dawson Precision. For about $20 you can't go wrong especially if you reload or shoot reloads of different calibers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Using the barrel works but is a pain to use on a regular basis. What I like to do is use the barrel to work up my max oal and sort of proof the gauge. Once I know that anything that will pass the gauge will pass the barrel I'm happy. I gauge every round I reload. I do it right out off the press before it goes into the storage bin. I don't have ammo problems. I like this since if I have a problem at the range or in a match I can rule one possibility out immediately. It amazes me how many guys will have problems at a match and if you ask them if they gauged the ammo they say"no". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45 Raven Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I guess I go to a lot more trouble than almost anyone when loading ammo for matches. 1. Size and deprime in a single stage press using an EGW modified die that sizes bottom of case more fully than standard die 2. Clean the sized and deprimed cases in a sonic cleaner, then rinse, first with tap water, then distilled water. Air dry. These become the feedstock for all ammo reloading 3. Reload on Dillon 550, following all normal procedures 4. Individually wipe down each loaded round with rag dampened with 70% isopropyl alcohol, checking for correctly seated primers and cracks, dents, or other flaws in the case and bullet 5. Case gauge check every single loaded round 6. Place loaded ammunition in labeled box Time consuming, but my Dillon 550 press is always clean because of all the stuff I do before reloading on it, all my ammo gets checked very closely, I enjoy reloading, and I have plenty of available time because I am retired after 42 years of employment! Different strokes for different folks, I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 That sucks for you Amigo and I'm sorry to hear it! At first I case gauged every single round. That got old pretty fast and I started to check only my match ammo. It has worked (for 40 S&W) flawlessly for nearly 2 years. A lee U-die is your friend For Supercomp Match ammo, I only use Atlanta Arms and Ammo. It has always been flawless and make PF without a problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag316 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I had the same thing happen at the Illinois Sectional last year. I check before every major match now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theycallmeingot Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) sounds like your buddy needs to use a lee factory crimp die on his glocked 9mm brass. i had exactly one round do this to me before i dropped the doh on one. never had another problem. money well spent. with the factory crimp die, i don't gage any of my ammo anymore. there really is no way or reason any of them wouldn't fit. EDIT: speeling Edited May 13, 2012 by theycallmeingot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Bear Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I do not gauge mine, but that is because my sizing die is my gauge. If the case makes it past the sizing die without being damaged, then I know from experience that is will fit my gauge and therefor fit in the chamber. This next week I plan to pick up a custom 2011. I will be chamber checking and gauging that one for a while until I either discover that all rounds that make it past the sizing die are good to go, or discover that the gauge is to loose and I need to find a tighter one that matches my chamber. A friend discovered that with his gauges. One was tighter than the other and rounds that passed the one gauge but not the other sometimes did not chamber, but everything that passed the tighter of the two always chambered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I do not gauge mine, but that is because my sizing die is my gauge. If the case makes it past the sizing die without being damaged, then I know from experience that is will fit my gauge and therefor fit in the chamber. The only flaw I see with this is that a case gauge will also catch a split case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Bear Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I do not gauge mine, but that is because my sizing die is my gauge. If the case makes it past the sizing die without being damaged, then I know from experience that is will fit my gauge and therefor fit in the chamber. The only flaw I see with this is that a case gauge will also catch a split case. True, but but because I use a LCT as a press I also handle all cases going in and all finished product on the way into the 100 count ammo boxes I use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theycallmeingot Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 i wonder if a split case that as been crimped in the lee factory crimp die would still pass the case gage? could be bad. i inspect each and every case before it goes into the loader, and each and every round before it goes into the 100rd box. i feel the potential to miss a split case is very low, and the possibility of a bulged case is nonexistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 thx all & yes I have started to get ready to reload myself. He is AD military & will PCS eventtually leaving me with nothing so i need to get prepared ... this just sped up that process. Ok, so what is "glock bulged cases'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theycallmeingot Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) There is a sticky on the subject in general reloading on here. sorry, im not sure how to copy a link on my phone. EDIT: back at the computer now. here's the link. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=133957 Edited May 14, 2012 by theycallmeingot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellguy030 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 thx all & yes I have started to get ready to reload myself. He is AD military & will PCS eventtually leaving me with nothing so i need to get prepared ... this just sped up that process. Ok, so what is "glock bulged cases'? glocks are known for loose chambers which allow the brass to bulge when the round is fired. I have been reloading for about a year and between my lee pro 1000 and now my dillon 550 i have not had any issues with this brass but some do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feederic Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I had some ammo that came out of a CAMDEX that locked my gun up pretty tight. Now I chamber check EVERY round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 i wonder if a split case that as been crimped in the lee factory crimp die would still pass the case gage? could be bad. i inspect each and every case before it goes into the loader, and each and every round before it goes into the 100rd box. i feel the potential to miss a split case is very low, and the possibility of a bulged case is nonexistent. In my personal experience, a .45 with a split case that was processed with a Lee FCD will fail the case gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theycallmeingot Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 i wonder if a split case that as been crimped in the lee factory crimp die would still pass the case gage? could be bad. i inspect each and every case before it goes into the loader, and each and every round before it goes into the 100rd box. i feel the potential to miss a split case is very low, and the possibility of a bulged case is nonexistent. In my personal experience, a .45 with a split case that was processed with a Lee FCD will fail the case gauge. cool, thanks. that's +1 for case gauging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I case gauge every round that goes into my gun for any match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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